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Trump: Youngkin 'would have lost by 15 points without MAGA'
The Hill ^ | 11/03/2021 | DOMINICK MASTRANGELO

Posted on 11/03/2021 7:48:59 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

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To: silverleaf
Trump was winning VA heavily until very late election night when votes were dumped in No VA

Trump was never going to win Virginia. He is absolutely toxic to NoVa suburban voters.

181 posted on 11/03/2021 1:08:17 PM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024.)
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To: Drew68
Trump was never going to win Virginia. He is absolutely toxic to NoVa suburban voters.

Oh he can win VA.

182 posted on 11/03/2021 1:10:15 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Bellagio

Sieg Heil


183 posted on 11/03/2021 1:13:01 PM PDT by 2nd Amendment
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To: TexasGurl24

Trump is right. That rural massive turnout. Was all MAGA.. he held on to them and Trumps urging to flood the system made sure they showed up


184 posted on 11/03/2021 1:17:14 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Fury

It’s not all about Trump but he’s not lying

You thing rural can didn’t turn out huge because of Trump? You think his urging to “flood the system” didn’t affect turnout?

Yes the candidate played it well, but without MAGA turnout and enthusiasm he would have lost


185 posted on 11/03/2021 1:20:37 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: 2nd Amendment

Great response from a low information thumb-sucking jellyfish.


186 posted on 11/03/2021 1:20:52 PM PDT by Bellagio
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To: mac_truck
The only person evoking Trump..."
Most evocative....

Still doesn't change the fact that nearly all Virginians have no idea who Youngkin is. Perhaps they'll get to know him now, but they voted for him not because they knew who he is but because they know who he is NOT (which is also why down-ballot Rs out-performed him).

And that key information was "evoked" by Trump who invoked Youngkin's win.
187 posted on 11/03/2021 1:30:42 PM PDT by nicollo
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To: Bellagio

Read Bonhoefer and see the dangers of putting all your faith in a demagogue!


188 posted on 11/03/2021 1:38:41 PM PDT by 2nd Amendment
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To: Freee-dame
Reagan said that it didn’t matter who got the credit as long as what he wanted to happen did in fact happen. I wish that Trump would take a lesson from this.

Really good point.

I think some of these statements by President Trump are schtick and an act to maintain his relevance in the culture. I don’t know that he has any empirical data that shows that Youngkin would have lost by 15 points - it’s just the way he talks.

He has a role to play in American politics. I do think he learned a valuable lesson about how best to help some candidates during an election - such as he does not need to campaign on the ground to get his point across.

189 posted on 11/03/2021 1:40:09 PM PDT by Fury
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To: nicollo

btw, if anyone knew Youngkin, why do we need to be introduced to his VP candidate — after the election?

Meet Virginia Lt. Governor-Elect Winsome Sears: She’s Crashing Through Glass Ceilings and Demolishing Stereotypes
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4009481/posts

Frankly, Youngkin should have given her a far higher profile during the campaign. He won on Trump’s coattails, not his own. He is to be applauded for not effing it up, but it wasn’t his own doing.

Trump is right to take credit for this win.


190 posted on 11/03/2021 1:43:43 PM PDT by nicollo
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To: BushCountry

Reminds me of a joke I just heard in my local talk radio station. The host said they had hundreds of thousands of preprinted McCauliffe Virginia ballots from China, but unfortunately for them they are stuck on one of those anchored freighters off the coast waiting to get unloaded due to supply chain issues LMAO!


191 posted on 11/03/2021 1:56:17 PM PDT by dsm69 (Boycott News Media/Hollywood Advertisers )
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To: nicollo
Youngkin outperformed Trump with both VA Republicans and VA independents.


192 posted on 11/03/2021 3:18:09 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Fury

That is hopeful. Since Terry Mc seemed to run against Trump, he was wise not inject himself too far into Youngkin’s campaign. Youngkin ran on Trump’s policies which is so Important


193 posted on 11/03/2021 3:20:54 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: mac_truck

Those numbers are a percentage of total vote and not absolute numbers, and there’s no comparison between national and off-year elections (which, btw, are designed to entrench the dominant party).

Meaningless, especially given the steal. Try again.


194 posted on 11/03/2021 3:24:01 PM PDT by nicollo
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To: nicollo
More "interesting" results from the Virginia governors race.


195 posted on 11/03/2021 3:26:28 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: nicollo
Meaningless, especially given the steal.

Wrong...the extra votes for Biden don't effect the demographics of Virginia Trump voters.

196 posted on 11/03/2021 3:29:44 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: nicollo
Speaks directly to the question of who is more popular in Virginia.


197 posted on 11/03/2021 3:41:40 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: central_va
"I would have warm fuzzy about Mr. Youngkin if he had invited Trump to campaign with him in person. He didn't do that which is slap in face to Trump and MAGA. Now I fully expect this brush off to be used as a wedge issue to put distance between Trump and the rest of the GOP. This will be exploited by the GOPe ( think Liz Cheney ), Democrats and the MSM the will say "See, Republicans stay away from Trump like Youngkin and you can win". That BS has already started."

Actually the MSM couldn't wait to tie Trump to Youngkin in victory, because of their fear the GOP has found a winning argument.

Ask yourself why some fat Frank F@g Bruni at the NYT has this right, and you have it wrong:

"In no sane world and by no sound reading did Youngkin run without or away from Trump, though that’s one of the spins being applied to his election in a state that President Biden won by roughly 10 percentage points just a year ago. Youngkin simply chose Trump in spirit over Trump in the flesh, a Trump Lite tack sure to be mimicked by Republican candidates in the 2022 midterms and beyond.

Political observers who say that Youngkin was a Never Trumper — proving the viability of that movement — are deluding themselves. He was a Stealth Trumper and Sorta Trumper who took pains not to offend or alienate Forever Trumpers.

I promise you that Ron DeSantis took note of how Youngkin used it. I promise you that every Republican governor, senator and House member who is up for re-election next year in a purple state or district paid heed.

They are testing the same proposition, which is that you needn’t choose between Trump sycophancy and Trump apostasy. There’s a halfway posture, a middle ground, and it can look to voters not like moral cowardice but like political prudence.

Trump allowed it. The former president was uncharacteristically even-tempered and restrained. Instead of taking offense at the distance that Youngkin kept from him, instead of taking the bait when journalists pointed that out, he professed to be unbothered. He claimed amity and mutual respect between the two of them.

Don’t interpret Trump’s absence from Republicans’ campaigns with an absence from their calculations. Don’t overlook the homage to Trump in DeSantis’s flamboyant us-versus-them, own-the-libs theatrics: offering cash bonuses to unvaccinated police officers who relocate to Florida from blue cities or states, challenging cruise lines’ insistence that passengers be vaccinated. Trump has educated Republicans, and one of the lessons is to be more like him."


198 posted on 11/04/2021 8:33:08 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (Each of you have at least ONE of these in your 401k: Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, J&J, and MERCK)
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