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Baldwin Shooting Elicits a Familiar -- and Flawed -- Response
RealClear Politics ^ | 11-02-21 | Dr. John R. Lott

Posted on 11/02/2021 11:35:27 AM PDT by VictimsRightsPro2a

If one terrible thing happens with a gun, gun control activists reflexively call for bans or other new regulations. There is rarely a consideration of costs and benefits. Actor Alec Baldwin has demonstrated this thinking again after the accidental fatal shooting on the set of his movie in New Mexico.

"[H]ow many bullets were fired in movies and TV shows over the last 75 years?" he said on Saturday. "… Billions? In the last 75 years? And nearly all of them without incident. ... Some new measures have to take place. ... No live ammunition. No real weapons in the set."

Baldwin is right about how rare these accidental deaths are. Before he shot and killed Halyna Hutchins on the set of his movie "Rust," Brandon Lee's death in 1993 was the last recorded death by a gun on a movie set (he was filming "The Crow"). As with Hutchins’ death, the gun fired a real bullet. Before that, there was actor Jon-Erik Hexum's death in 1984. While waiting between takes, Hexum put a gun to his temple and shot himself with a blank. He didn't understand that blanks contain explosives, and the force of the explosion can kill at very short range.

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alecbaldwin; banglist; bidenvoters; cprc; guns; halynahutchins; joelsouza; johnlott; rust
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1 posted on 11/02/2021 11:35:27 AM PDT by VictimsRightsPro2a
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Todays article says the AD blames Hollywoods values and procedures. He didn't follow Hollywoods procedures. He went outside of the state and used non-union labor to circumvent those procedures and cut costs. So it's Hollywoods fault. Not the armorer. Not the AD. Certainly not the trigger man, Alec. It's everybody and it's nobody. Let's just get on with our lives like it never happened.

if Alec had taken a NRA gun safety course, this could have been prevented.

2 posted on 11/02/2021 11:41:52 AM PDT by BipolarBob (I had to change my homepage because it was embellished somewhat. Apologies to all.)
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To: VictimsRightsPro2a

i do not think that the amount of rounds fired on set would amount to a billion... he’s being dramatic. it only takes one moron to kill someone.


3 posted on 11/02/2021 11:43:28 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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To: BipolarBob

this was premeditated murder, planned to
execute the investigator of his daughter’s abuse
AND the wife of someone under the Clinton thumb.

it was a TWO-FER.

Murder. but this article covers his ...


4 posted on 11/02/2021 11:44:09 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: VictimsRightsPro2a

Hey Alec,how many innocent people have you killed??????


5 posted on 11/02/2021 11:44:35 AM PDT by Hambone 1934 (Dems love playing Nazis.....The republicans love helping them)
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To: VictimsRightsPro2a
I have a terrific idea.

Instead of making it so Alec Baldwin can't get his hands on a gun, let's make it so no one can get his hands on a gun.

Which happens to be what Alec Baldwin wanted before he used a gun to kill someone and wound someone else.

6 posted on 11/02/2021 11:48:45 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: VictimsRightsPro2a

Whenever someone hands a gun to me.....THE VERY FIRST THING I DO IS TO CHECK THE MAGAZINE AND/OR THE CYLINDER!

Anyone with half a brain knows this!

AB belongs in prison for stupidity so that his stupid doesn’t rub off on anyone else!


7 posted on 11/02/2021 11:49:53 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Land is simply a place I visit until I can return to the sea.)
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To: VictimsRightsPro2a
"[H]ow many bullets were fired in movies and TV shows over the last 75 years?" he said on Saturday. "… Billions? ... Some new measures have to take place. ... No live ammunition. No real weapons in the set."

He just refuted his own argument. The problem was lax enforcement by an inexperienced armorer.

While waiting between takes, Hexum put a gun to his temple and shot himself with a blank. He didn't understand that blanks contain explosives, and the force of the explosion can kill at very short range.

But going back at least 50 years, the deaths of Hutchins and Lee were the only two involving live ammunition.

Hexum died from a blank - and stupidity - not live ammunition

8 posted on 11/02/2021 11:51:38 AM PDT by throwthebumsout
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To: VictimsRightsPro2a

“The Actors Equity Association, the union to which Baldwin belongs, clearly states the rules for firearms use on its website:

“Treat all guns as if they are loaded and deadly.”
“Never point a firearm at anyone including yourself. Always cheat the shot by aiming to the right or left of the target character.”
“Check the firearm every time you take possession of it.”
“Live ammunition may not be brought into the theatre.””

I wonder if this will be brought out in the investigation?


9 posted on 11/02/2021 11:51:58 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: VictimsRightsPro2a

Alec sweety? You were free as both star actor and executive producer to use a fake gun with no ammo. You passed that up in favor of murdering this young woman. But now you want to prevent other people from operating safely.

You’re an a$$hole.


10 posted on 11/02/2021 11:52:01 AM PDT by nagant
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To: VictimsRightsPro2a

This moron doesn’t have the sense to STFU, does he? I saw a video where he’s talking to reporters and his wife tries to get him to shut up and he shoos her away.

What a maroon.


11 posted on 11/02/2021 11:53:53 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Beowulf9

Yeah but none of those rules specifically says Alec Baldwin has to follow them.


12 posted on 11/02/2021 11:54:54 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: BipolarBob

He also used an internet whore, sorry, “internet influencer,” peddling her services as BDSM ‘mistress’ in between takes.


13 posted on 11/02/2021 11:56:57 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: VictimsRightsPro2a
"[H]ow many bullets were fired in movies and TV shows over the last 75 years?"

Well, there was the one that killed Brandon Lee, which was an improperly fabricated dummy cartridge where the armorer removed the powder from a real cartridge, but retained the primer, so that when it was fired the bullet had just enough energy to lodge into the barrel of the gun. Later, when a full power blank was fired, that was more than enough energy to fire the lodged bullet into Brandon Lee.

Then there was the bullet you fired on the set of "Rust."

I'd say about two bullets were fired in movies and TV shows over the last 75 years.

14 posted on 11/02/2021 11:57:13 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: BipolarBob
There were thousands of rounds fired with ground charges and cannon fire on the three sets of North and South and no one was injured. Safety was of the utmost importance with actors and reenactors following the rules. It was filmed in Mississippi also.
15 posted on 11/02/2021 12:07:27 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: VictimsRightsPro2a

Alec still thinks the gun killed her and not himself.


16 posted on 11/02/2021 12:10:18 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: VictimsRightsPro2a

Mistakes were made. /sarc


17 posted on 11/02/2021 12:15:58 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: Sacajaweau

Exactly! This is who he is. Trying to establish in our minds that this was really not him who pulled the trigger. Feel sorry for me all you nazi loving Trump racist terrorizing scum. Let me alone as I strive to clean up my image trough Twitter press conference’s etc. the gun killed her not me! Now on to killing Henry Hyde and his family. We will kill them all! Sounds like a sociopath to me with an over riding personality disorder…but that’s just me.*


18 posted on 11/02/2021 12:26:16 PM PDT by V V Camp Enari 67-68 ( This clears up a lot of misconceptions.)
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To: Diogenesis

Please educate me on evidence of motive against Baldwin.


19 posted on 11/02/2021 12:26:22 PM PDT by nagant
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To: VictimsRightsPro2a

Alec Baldwin killed this woman because he was sloppy and too lazy to check the gun before playing with it. It’s that simple. No amount of rhetoric from him can change that one iota.


20 posted on 11/02/2021 12:35:03 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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