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The Alec Baldwin Conundrum
Townhall.com ^ | October 25, 2021 | Kurt Schlichter

Posted on 10/25/2021 2:39:38 AM PDT by Kaslin

Alec Baldwin got to play his dream role last week, and unfortunately for an innocent woman, it was a method-acting version of Ted Kennedy. Now, you note that I am mocking a guy whose probable gross negligence killed a lady and maimed a man, and this raises an important question – do we really want to live in a world where our reaction to a tragedy caused by an enemy is not sorrow and compassion but mockery?

It doesn’t matter what we want. We do live in such a world, in large part due to the likes of Alec Baldwin. Besides his scuzzy abuse of the people – notably women – in his orbit, he is a particularly loathsome social media presence, and as a result, conservatives are gleefully resurrecting his old tweets about guns and his wish for them to be used on his many, many enemies in the wake of his horrible act. There are many, many such tweets. I am not a believer in karma and do not fear it, but I do try to keep a respectful distance from irony.

Note that arguments that this somehow hurts the families of the victims are weak – “My beloved relative has died – I shall seek solace on Twitter” seems far-fetched. Moreover, the families might be mortified to see people taking apart the architect of their pain? Doubtful. If anything, the practical effect of slamming Six Gun Alec is making people think, “Gosh, better not play with firearms lest people on Twitter roast me.”

But there is a legit question of how we should respond to this. There have been two different reactions among those on our general side of the fight to the reactions to Alec Baldwin’s fall from, well, not exactly grace. One is to recoil with horror at the accident and assert that this is a time when we should offer our thoughts and prayers for the victims and for Baldwin, who one would hope is devastated by what he has done. Nice people tend to have this reaction, those who want to live in a more genteel world than we do. I sympathize, in that I would like to live in such a world. I would also like a unicorn pony.

Then there was the opposite reaction, in which our folks ran up the score, skewering the gun control zealot’s failure to zealously control his gun. This is playing by the new rules of gladiatorial combat in the cultural coliseum. Those burned out on the lies and calumny we are bombarded with daily tend to go this way; they are angry, and they are more than willing to give Alec a good, hard dose of his own medicine. That’s certainly my inclination. A tweet for a tweet, so to speak.

So, I sympathize with both options, and I cannot get upset at people for choosing one over the other. If you want to go gentle, cool, and if you want to go hard, okay. After all, the rules are the rules, and there can only be one set of them. In the world I would want to live in, we would all be at Option A, whispering a silent prayer for the hurting – and I did. But this is not the world we live in, and none of us are under any moral obligation to pretend we do. This is a world where the rule is that you take an opening in the enemy’s line and you drive a couple divisions hard right through it.

Alec Baldwin is a bad person, but more than that, he is a bad person who hates us with a mortality rate thanks to his hypocrisy. And now he is vulnerable, and the rules say he is fair game – his rules. Is it significant that this amoral, leftist, Trumpophobic gun grabber has personally executed more mass shootings than any Christian conservative Trump-loving NRA member? Not in any kind of intellectual sense – it’s just a thing that happened – but it makes a helluva meme.

The argument for being nice is that 1) we should live the way we wish to live, that is, model the way we want the world regardless of how the world actually is and set the example; 2) we are better than that; and 3) Jesus tells us to. Of these, No. 3 is the most compelling – the hardest part of Christianity is loving your enemies. Perhaps you can do that even as you tweet that the fifth rule of gun safety is never give Alec Baldwin a gun. Jesus wasn’t a pinko hippie; he confronted and told hard truths. And despite the injunction to turn the other cheek, Christians are not pacifists. After all, many soldiers are Christian and they kill their enemies, so you must be able to be a Christian and point out through biting sarcasm that Alec Baldwin is awful too.

As for us modeling to the world, does that ever work? Has us not matching punch for punch with the cultural left ever made them hold up and think, “Gosh, the conservatives’ refusal to stoop to my level has made me rethink this whole pursuit of power thing – I will forgo it and return to the norms of yesteryear”? Of course not. George W. Bush famously remained above the fray and they only stopped vivisecting him when he joined them in vivisecting us.

As for us being “better than that,” I’ll take being just as bad as that and not being a cultural serf over the David French position, which is the converse.

The argument for Option B is that you can’t go back to the past paradigm where you didn’t hit ‘em when they were down without punishing them for hitting us when we were down. Pain is the teacher. Of course, this assumes a paradigm not in evidence; we were never quite that pristine. I remember that within days of the Challenger accident, cruel jokes circulated across campus. Gallows humor has always existed, and there’s no reason it shouldn’t – maybe we’d just prefer a scenario where we acknowledge it’s appalling even as we laugh in spite of ourselves.

The premise of Option B is that we have to fight fire with fire, though that analogy always puzzled me. Rather, in combat you use the necessary weapons. Nazis and communists used guys with guns to attack us; we used guys with guns to kill them. Was there a moral difference, since everybody used guns, asks the moral illiterate? Yes. The other guys were Nazis and communists, and shooting them was a moral imperative because they were Nazis and communists. Our mean tweets are in the service of light, theirs are on the side of darkness.

To not engage on the terms that reality has set before you is to accept defeat. You might not like the rules, but there they are. In a society that has made the rule that you pummel your opponent when he is down, to not play by the rule is to unilaterally disarm.

Those nice folks on our side don’t see it that way – they see it as embracing decency. But lately, “decency” has translated as submission and, not being Bulwark staffers, we’re not into that scene.

The bad guys want us to be “decent” too – but not because of decency but because it makes their lives easier when we are hamstrung in response to their cultural aggression. We’re not supposed to make jokes about Alec Baldwin’s idiocy for the same reason we’re not supposed to make jokes about men pretending to be women pretending to be admirals. Humor, especially mean humor, is subversive. The leftist joke stasi wants the potential for subversion off the table.

Think of it as the Cold War. Option B is mutually assured destruction – if you launch social media cruelty at our misfortune, you will pay in spades, so don’t. Option A is unilateral disarmament. Nice people on our side want us to disarm to make us better people; our enemies want us to disarm to make us better targets.

So do as you wish about Alec Baldwin. If you want to remain in the light and offer your condolences, do so. Like I said, I’ve muttered a prayer for him and his victims because my faith tells me to do so and loving only your friends is kind of a meaningless exercise. I don’t like Alec Baldwin (though I really enjoy his acting). He’s awful. So I’m also going to talk bad about him and his hypocrisy and negligence.

Those are the rules we’re playing by today. I didn’t make the rules. I don’t like them. I’m even willing to return to the old ones, once enough pain has been inflicted to teach the necessary lesson about changing the rules. But I am not willing to play by a different set of rules that limits me at the expense of my opponents.

That’s the conundrum. I want a nice world, but I can’t get it just by being nice. So leftists, let me know when you want to change the new rules back. Until then, they are in effect.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: alecbaldwin; guns; halynahutchins; hollyweird; joelsouza; kurtschlichter; rust; schlichter
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To: Kaslin; bitt

Why is Baldwin not in jail?

At the very least, there is negligence resulting in injured and killed human beings.


21 posted on 10/25/2021 4:15:15 AM PDT by ptsal (Vote R.E.D. >>>Remove Every Democrat ***)
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To: Kaslin
I want a nice world

If it was a nice world then Schichter would be out of a job.

22 posted on 10/25/2021 4:17:23 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Kaslin

An outstanding article, worth reading in its entirety. We’ve got to stop knife fighting with blunted rubber knives, when our opponents do anything and everything to eviscerate us.


23 posted on 10/25/2021 4:35:14 AM PDT by SharpenedEdge (Stockpile. Prepare. Arm. Train. A Storm is coming.)
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To: Kaslin

I have always noted the hypocrisy between Holierthanthouwood on guns in general yet Holierthanthouwood keeps pumping out complete over-the-top gun acrobatics, and complete nonsense regarding the proper handling of lethal weaponry in the products it produces. Whether real, CGI, rubber, whatever... the message is often the same, that guns are toys, mere props. The sci-fi of it all.


24 posted on 10/25/2021 4:40:32 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: Kaslin

I posted in another FR thread that I hoped he will find peace. That is not to say that dislike the man for his childish, egotistical ways and thought process. Critical thinking does not seem to be his way of moving forward in life. He is now learning that cost of fast and loose thinking. I do not think he will better life lessons out of this, but there always a chance.


25 posted on 10/25/2021 4:44:02 AM PDT by Liaison (TANSTAAFL)
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To: equaviator

Bullcrap. Baldwin has pushed for gun control and confiscation for years. If you don’t see that as harmful to constitutional conservatism, well, maybe you should be posting somewhere else.


27 posted on 10/25/2021 4:56:22 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: bagster

Enough of this conspiracy crap. The evidence up to this point supports none of it.


28 posted on 10/25/2021 4:56:58 AM PDT by Houmatt (Welcome to the USSA.)
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To: BobL

I’ve made the exact same point previously, and I have had posts deleted.
“Like moths to a flame.”


29 posted on 10/25/2021 4:58:33 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: carcraft

The bigger issue is how to deal with bullies. Being “nice” does not work - it just emboldens them. Acting like them - they call you names and you call them names back, seems useless. Intelligent, productive people have better things to do than waste their time and energy on that. You are kind of giving the bully the recognition he craves. I think we need to somehow play a different game than them, which is different than both playing “nice” or forever reacting to them.


30 posted on 10/25/2021 5:03:24 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: KevinB
or...

You knew what I was when you picked me up.


31 posted on 10/25/2021 5:03:42 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: BobL

You’re drawing the line in the wrong place Bobble...

It’s NATION not skin color.

na·tion
/ˈnāSH(ə)n/
noun
a large body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language.

Nothing racial about that. Certainly not what we have here any more, and certainly worth pursuing.

Check with Israel and China for more details.


32 posted on 10/25/2021 5:03:51 AM PDT by Hugh the Scot
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To: bagster

oops!


33 posted on 10/25/2021 5:06:15 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Houmatt
Enough of this conspiracy crap. The evidence up to this point supports none of it.

Supports none of what? That Baldwin's name wasn't on Epstein's flight log? That the girl wasn't attached to a Hollywood pedophile ring documentary?

Where is the 'conspiracy theory crap', goodman? Or is that just your knee-jerk reaction to FACTS that you don't want to see?

You naive rabbits really get on my last good nerve. Now go ahead and prove this girl wasn't involved in the pedo documentary and that Baldwin's name wasn't on Epstein's flight logs.

Betcha can't.


34 posted on 10/25/2021 5:08:49 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: EEGator

“I’ve made the exact same point previously, and I have had posts deleted.”

Maybe it’s the ‘tone’ or something subtle that you miss. One has to be very careful to not imply supremacy or something like it.

Basically, it’s white people working together to simply ‘protect their interests’, like having safe communities and a country that protects its borders and is up to the challenge of our new cold war with China. We tend to think that’s a universal desire of both Democrats and Republicans...and maybe it once was (at least 50 years ago, though), but not anymore. But by thinking it is a universal value, half of the white population can then vote Democrat, thinking that they’ll still be safe and their country and children will be safe.

That simply isn’t true, we know it, but until we can convince the other half of our ‘group’ understand it, we’ll keep losing, and the country will get closer and closer to never being able to recover.


35 posted on 10/25/2021 5:10:15 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: Hugh the Scot

“Nothing racial about that.”

Good to hear that voting patterns do not differ by race.

Thanks much! I missed the news.


36 posted on 10/25/2021 5:11:44 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: BobL

This.

Also: Psalm 144.1 to all the cheek turners out there.


37 posted on 10/25/2021 5:12:07 AM PDT by TTFlyer (Vote harder, sucker. Yeah, that's the ticket. ..)
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To: bagster

That list reads like a ‘who’s who’ in debauchery!!!!!!


38 posted on 10/25/2021 5:21:34 AM PDT by Guenevere (When the foundations are being destroyed what can the righteous do t)
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To: Kaslin

The rules today are: do unto others as they would do unto you -but do it to them first.


39 posted on 10/25/2021 5:21:59 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Kaslin

Baldwin needs jail time. A women is dead because he killed her. Her 9 year old son is now without a mother thanks to Baldwin.


40 posted on 10/25/2021 5:22:11 AM PDT by Nateman (If the Left is not screaming , you are doing it wrong.)
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