Posted on 09/25/2021 11:39:41 AM PDT by Chunga85
Can't have them felon 11Bravos that were kicked out for just not wanting to get sick or die from a shot that their bosses in DC made themselves exempt from getting mad and buying guns now can we? They surely cannot envision what mess a few battalions of cashiered and totally pi$$ed off Infantry that might raid an NG armory could do that would make Jan 06 look like a frat party.
The bottom line is there should be no mandates at all; we all know this isn't about health but mandatory compliance.
I served in a different era when the communists hadn't taken over our government yet.
Agreed
Require the vaccines for entitlements.
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“The worst they can get for refusing these experimental vaccines is a general discharge that can easily be fought to honorable.”
The charge would be disobeying a direct order from the commanding officer for this approved vaccine.
That is punishable by a General Court Martial and they can award up to life in a military prison.
It’s definitely an unlikely outcome, but they have that legal authority.
DD's or even BCD's would never be given anyway. That's just clickbait. Still, anu nom-honorable discharge can impact your entitlement to VA benefits, which is outrageous enough.
For many years democrats have wanted to destroy the military as a conservative-leaning voting bloc.
This year they are doing all they can to make that dream a reality.
Yes, 2A etc all go away.
A DD is not an admin action. It is the result of a court- martial.
If the idiocracy thinks the DOD will try perhaps a quarter of the serving troops and squids, they are in need of a dose of reality.
Imagine the result of disenfranchising and creating a criminal class of vets....over an experimental gene therapy with proven poor results but rather dangerous unintended consequences....
So you consider a “vaccine” that bypassed normal long-term adverse reaction studies and has not control groups to be an ordinary vaccine?
Quite the useful idiot you are.
Recruiting must already be poor - that would tank it for good.......
Yes, retention as well. Forced vaxees will be a sullen and angry lot. Good luck with morale and discipline with those sorts of folks.
Biden will order the military to kill American citizens on American soil. Mark my words. The democrats will stop at nothing.
Yes. Funny how everyone, especially liberals, forgets about “the rule of law” when it comes to military personnel.
Now we’re getting somewhere.
To give a dishonorable discharge requires prosecution. It ain’t just a checkbox on a discharge form.
The problem with even the BCD is the accused gets to present a defense in front of the “jury” which means that it is not done in a day, it takes months to get to the “trial”.
A BCD can not be done as fast as Article 15, (NJP), and then the process to discharge is not an automatic process that can be done in a few days. For the Navy it still needs to go through NAVPERS for the final discharge paperwork.
My experience with the Navy was that Dishonorable and Bad Conduct discharges take at least 2 months after conviction and I never saw an accused stand trial in less than 2 months from the charges being filed and the trial being started.
Even discharges under Article 15, which the Captain/Commander can hold within days of the accused being formally charged can take months for NAVPERS, (other branches call their personnel commands something else), to approve the discharge recommended by the Captain/Commander, (a court martial can order a discharge but the Captain/Commander can only recommend it).
You know things are damned bad when the government wants to courts martial a large percentage of our military for failure to take injections already declared illegal by the world court.
If (emphasis on if, because I’m not sure) I’m reading this right, Green’s amendment 716 is included in what the House passed. If so that means it has to survive the Senate and if it does that means military members that refuse the jab cannot be dishonorably discharged.
That’s a lot of ifs. Just passing in the House is a stiff rebuke to the Catatonic Joe Regime. Here’s the link I’m reading. It’s kind of hard to be sure so I’m not.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/4350/text
It’s a bit of a surprise this topic sparks so little interest, but I did call Green’s office. Section 716 DID survive by a wide bi-partisan margin. It now goes to the Senate.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/4350/text
Here’s the money shot.
“(a) Prohibition.—Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a member of an Armed Force under the jurisdiction of the Secretary of a military department subject to discharge on the basis of the member choosing not to receive the COVID-19 vaccine may only receive an honorable discharge.”
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