Posted on 08/12/2021 11:51:44 AM PDT by Red Badger
The Delta variant has changed the equation for achieving herd immunity, the developer of the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine has said.
Speaking at a UK parliamentary meeting on Tuesday, Sir Andrew Pollard, a professor of pediatric infection and immunity at the University of Oxford, said that achieving herd immunity is "not a possibility" now that the Delta variant is circulating.
"We know very clearly with coronavirus that this current variant, the Delta variant, will still infect people who have been vaccinated, and that does mean that anyone who's still unvaccinated, at some point, will meet the virus," Pollard said.
He said it was unlikely that herd immunity will ever be reached, saying the next variant of the novel coronavirus will be "perhaps even better at transmitting in vaccinated populations".
Vaccinated people can still get the Delta variant, albeit as a milder case Some experts had hoped that herd immunity could be reached with COVID-19, as was the case with measles, which is also highly infectious.
Many countries have achieved herd immunity with measles by vaccinating 95 percent of the population against it, such as the US, where endemic transmission ended in 2000. That is because once a person is vaccinated against measles, they cannot transmit the virus.
With COVID-19, vaccines still fulfill their primary role: protecting against severe disease. According to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, vaccinated people who catch the Delta variant are 25 times less likely to have a severe case or die. The overwhelming majority who do catch it will have mild or no symptoms.
But growing evidence suggests that, with the Delta variant, fully vaccinated people can still transmit the virus.
"We don't have anything which will stop that transmission to other people," Pollard said.
Israel is a good example of this: COVID-19 cases dropped in the country after it vaccinated about 80 percent of adults – prompting some to hope that it had reached herd immunity – but the Delta variant has since brought another surge of cases.
That’s exactly what I’d say if I were selling vaccines.
yep. just like the “studies” that show taking vitamins doesn’t do anything beneficial. It’s much better to rely on prescription drugs for your health. Always always follow the money.
This will die out as soon as Fauci and his buddies in Wuhan run out of new variants to release on the world. Then this will recede and disappear
And if the virus mutated in reverse, delta variant first, they would be saying the same thing.
Very possible that the mass vaccinations in the midst of an evolving pandemic led to the delta mutation, and perhaps other mutations as well. This has been proposed by experts as a real possibility.
Viruses gonna virus! Let’s not destroy our economy and our nation in a futile chase of this Chinese bioweapon. Just stop it!!
Yep. Gotta keep dem jabs goin’.
Just because the jabs can’t get us to herd immunity does this somehow mean that natural immunity can’t?
Variants, it they are true virus variants only mutate .o3 percent.
Curious the infected/recovered not mentioned.
Because the imperfect, leaky, experimental vaccine ruined any chance of natural herd immunity.
Thanks science.
They will never ever give up on this scam. Far too many people believe every word these guys say. I’ll bet even Fauci and his Pharma gang are surprised at how easy it’s been to lead the masses around.
Just as with politically correct global warming, experimental vaccine “revelations” seem to always be hind$ight imo.
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Insights welcome.
that is what I am not understanding at this point...
If the vaccine is working and lessening symptoms, those who are vaccinated will then also be immune by say spring 2022. And many will have lived or not have long-term complications. Fewer will have died.
The unvaxxed, will have the tougher time, but many of them too will live, survive, may have long-term complications.
But...again by Spring we should see Covid disappearing pretty much worldwide as by then most will have acquired immunity response to some version of the wild variety.
It really is just logical.
Important question: Are these people with breakthrough cases getting natural immunity with their infections?
Or are they now destined to receive numerous reinfections and get numerous booster shots over the course of their life.
Also, Zinc depletes Copper. So if you take Zinc, you should also take Copper supplements, preferably at a different time during the day.
The dark side is strong with these people.
You can almost see the supple luciferian intellect struggling in real time with each new inconvenient fact that is revealed and cannot readily be denied.
Booster booster
Yet still no mention of the herd immunity created from the millions of people who HAD covid and recovered from it.
It’s been said that those who recovered from the virus have a more robust immune response than those who only had the jab.
The Delta, Delta+ and Epsilon variants are essentially turning into something akin to the common cold. 😒
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