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Bill Maher, Ben Shapiro, and MSNBC's Malcolm Nance Debated Critical Race Theory. Fix Yourself a Drink.
Townhall ^ | 08/09/2021 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 08/09/2021 8:26:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

There are liberals who refuse to kowtow to the woke mob. Bari Weiss was one of those folks. She fled her job at The New York Times as an op-ed writer. Bill Maher, a comedian, is another target of the far left, which is evident on social media. He drives them nuts because he shreds liberal hypocrisy when it comes to coddling radical Islamic terrorism. He’s pro-free speech. He’s anti-political correctness. He’s not a conservative, but in lefty circles, he might as well be. Left-wing America is quite anti-free speech, pro-terrorist anti-cop, anti-reason, and utterly insane as of late. 

So, it shouldn’t shock us that the debate between conservative Ben Shapiro of The Daily Wire and MSNBC’s Malcolm Nance was lively. And by that, I mean, Shapiro owning Nance. Of course, left-wingers would disagree, but even former CNN producer Steve Krakauer noted that Shapiro brought facts, while Nance just offered insults. It was the perfect juxtaposition between how conservatives conduct themselves and how liberals react when their grand ideas are exposed as utter trash in less than 10 minutes. Maher even agreed that the white liberal obsession with defunding the police was going to get people killed. 

Last night’s @BenShapiro and Malcolm Nance drama is a good Rorschach Test for intellectual honesty. Objectively, Shapiro brought facts, and Nance brought insults. It was an embarrassment for the MSNBC analyst. But if you hate Ben Shapiro, you likely had this takeaway... https://t.co/Fz47sSVqlG— Steve Krakauer (@SteveKrak) August 7, 2021

.@AndrewHClark was dead on about this as well -- the longer Nance went on and on with petty snipes and surface level stuff he'd lob on, say, Joy Reid's show, the more Bill Maher seemed annoyed and tired of his shtick. https://t.co/XfT9fCxpZC— Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) August 7, 2021

Yet, a good chunk of Nance’s responses dealt with Donald Trump and the phantom threat he posed to Western civilization. Did anyone tell him that Biden has gotten cozy with Russia over Nord Stream 2? Does this mean Joe has a pee tape? Biden also cut aid to Ukraine which included arms. Is Joe a Russian agent? These were the questions lobbed for years when the script was flipped, so please while I roll my eyes at everything Nance said during this episode last Friday. Curtis Houck at Newsbusters clipped the main bouts, the clip where he notes that it doesn’t matter that Democrats control all branches of government because…Donald Trump was something. These people cannot move on—and it’s sad. The government collapsed in 1861. It was our only true constitutional crisis—and we endured it. These clowns think one bad election result is akin to that or something. It feels like it, which is why Trump Derangement Syndrome is just as annoying as it is entertaining. 

After falsely claiming 40,000 people stormed the Capitol on 1/6, @BenShapiro SCHOOLS Malcom Nance's nonsense and dangerous conflation of all right-of-center Americans as terrorists.

Shapiro THEN points out that Nance has called him a "racist" who should be banned from D.C. pic.twitter.com/hgkr22uU08— Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) August 7, 2021

UNREAL: Malcolm Nance then decides he has to lecture @BenShapiro about...Auschwitz and the Holocaust as a way of saying he has excused authoritarianism and coddled a modern-day dictator in Donald Trump

Ben: "Are you going to lecture me on the Holocaust?" pic.twitter.com/OrIYPzyX60— Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) August 7, 2021

After pointing out that, contrary to the behavior of leftists, Donald Trump isn't in power and #Tucker only went to the small country of Hungary, "people are actually experiencing top-down control from the government," which, as per the balance of power, are all Democrats. pic.twitter.com/YhV3hn62mG— Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) August 7, 2021

Amazing: MSNBC's Malcom Nance defends The New York Times (even though it "sucks" sometimes) and then dismisses the fact that Democrats have control over Congress and the WH, saying that America is instead under the authoritarian nose of Donald Trump pic.twitter.com/YDOI4W0vEO— Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) August 7, 2021

This is a demolition -- @BenShapiro asked Malcolm Nance a very basic question about why wasn't he thrown in jail when his books came out about Donald Trump during the Trump presidency.

Nance then argued Trump probed he has control over TV when he temporarily was off MSNBC... pic.twitter.com/DSuy7RQxGa— Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) August 7, 2021

WATCH: In only 65 seconds, @BenShapiro gives the best and most substantive definition of critical race theory you'll ever hear or read. pic.twitter.com/7pXXIxQHo6— Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) August 7, 2021

After saying @BenShapiro belongs to the side that doesn't want things like the Chinese Exclusion Act taught in schools, Malcolm Nance then accuses Shapiro of being someone who wants to ensure that future generations defend the Confederacy and deny slavery existed pic.twitter.com/a1ZoxRW9HB— Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) August 7, 2021

Showing how much he has a deep-seated hatred for people on the right, Malcom Nance jokes to @BenShapiro that Fox News viewers deny the existence of "viruses" (i.e. Covid-19) in much the same way they supposedly deny that racism and slavery have existed pic.twitter.com/3wnfEE9ihN— Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) August 7, 2021

After jokingly saying that @BenShapiro demeans guests and takes them out of context at the @realDailyWire, Shapiro levels the boom: "Malcolm, I appreciate that but I will comfort myself by sleeping on my bed made of money." pic.twitter.com/qqgyX3rjRv— Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) August 7, 2021

Here’s the full clip:

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: abortion; benshapiro; billmaher; blackkk; crt; debate; education; homosexualagenda; shapiro

1 posted on 08/09/2021 8:26:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Thanks! Good stuff. Ben brings the hammer.


2 posted on 08/09/2021 8:32:41 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Convention Of States is our only hope now! Desantis 2024!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I took a very quick glance at Twitter and I get the impression that the Left feels that they won this thing handily. Their insults were cogent and insightful arguments debunking any and all Conservative views, and Ben Shapiro defeated himself by not agreeing with CRT, which is obviously correct in every way.

You can’t debate these people. They just say that they won, and made you look like a fool. Why bother?


3 posted on 08/09/2021 8:36:45 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We have two Democrat parties. 50% of the US population has no political representation.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is a perfect illustration of why you can’t debate a leftist.

They have been raised and educated to believe that they are the most special intelligent people in the world. To even debate them means you must be stupid or a racist, etc.

They are what is. You debating them means you aren’t.

Hence you get a guy like Malcolm Nance answering facts with snark and a smirk and a steady stream of making up his own facts. And you get the other leftists looking at the debate from that standpoint. His snark is what counts, not his utter lack of logical coherence.


4 posted on 08/09/2021 8:39:35 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: ClearCase_guy

like playing chess with a pigeon

he knocks over all the pieces
craps all over the board
and struts around like he won


5 posted on 08/09/2021 8:45:57 AM PDT by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: ClearCase_guy

......’You can’t debate these people’.....

I have that with certain family members...they’re like missionaries for the left, believing their job is solely to convert you to their thinking rather than debating the issues.


6 posted on 08/09/2021 8:51:08 AM PDT by caww ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

People are actually experiencing top-down control from the government.

That is what Trump is all about and why the left hate him so much they only want lemmings so they can keep power.


7 posted on 08/09/2021 9:01:40 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: FlipWilson

Just like the election. The evidence is out in the open yet every news story reads “Trump’s lie that he won the election..”. A few years back when there was absolutely zero evidence , every news story asserted Trump cheated in the election (by colluding with Russia). There is no debating with these people. They don’t accept logical reasoning when you back it up with evidence or demand to see evidence for a claim being made. They make an assertion, whatever they feel like, and that’s what IS. End of story.


8 posted on 08/09/2021 9:03:41 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: SeekAndFind

Ran into this over the weekend as I was reading the lectionary passages for next Sunday. I think it is great counsel for our current struggle against insane CommieRats:

“Do not rebuke mockers or they will hate you; rebuke the wise and they will love you. Instruct the wise and they will be wiser still; teach the righteous and they will add to their learning.” – Proverbs 9:7-9 (NIV)

The Bible never fails to amaze me with the wisdom that is found in it.


9 posted on 08/09/2021 9:04:15 AM PDT by RatRipper ( Democrats and socialists are vile liars, thdieves and murderers - enemies of good and America.)
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

The cartoon-voiced, little Ben Shapiro who said the January 6 prisoners should rot in jail?


10 posted on 08/09/2021 9:06:09 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: Bigg Red

I want to like Shapiro, but he does come off as a bit two-faced to me.


11 posted on 08/09/2021 9:07:22 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

I saw the clip of Ben saying those arrested for Jan 6 deserve to rot in prison. Didn’t like that at all, 5th amendment matters too.


12 posted on 08/09/2021 9:13:45 AM PDT by teevolt
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To: SeekAndFind

I guess that little dwarf bastard has his uses at times. A shame we couldn’t get a real conservative to represent us on these subjects, but then again, Bill Maher would never have invited one.


13 posted on 08/09/2021 9:32:37 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Shapiro is controlled opposition. You notice he still has full access to big media.


14 posted on 08/09/2021 9:48:47 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Nothing sounds more boring, irrelevant or painful to watch.


15 posted on 08/09/2021 9:53:22 AM PDT by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: SeekAndFind

Like a blind squirrel Maher occasionally comes up with an acorn. I can only assume that the one from MSLSD is your basic Maoist punk.


16 posted on 08/09/2021 10:05:37 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Balloting)
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To: teevolt

ben ticked me off too with that. he is accepting their definition of “insurrection” when it was a peaceful protest of election suspicions that were being ignored and suppressed by the powers that be and that is when it turned violent ..

in some cases. not an insurrection.


17 posted on 08/09/2021 10:10:45 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bkmk


18 posted on 08/09/2021 10:12:37 AM PDT by sauropod (Amateurs built the ark; Professionals built the Titanic. Anon)
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

Ben Shapiro is a POS! On that show he said the 1/6 Patriots should rot in prison.


19 posted on 08/09/2021 10:14:59 AM PDT by kenmcg (tHE WHOLE )
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