Posted on 07/17/2021 12:13:54 PM PDT by DFG
The abject failure of Califonia’s energy policies is becoming more apparent every day. The Golden State has taken the lead in shutting down reliable coal, natural gas and nuclear power plants and jumping feet first into a grid powered largely by unreliable wind and solar.
California is also seeking to ban the sale of new gasoline and diesel-powered vehicles in the state by 2035, even though this would require Californians to be even more reliant upon an unreliable power grid.
An overreliance on wind and solar has resulted in a grid that is so unreliable that the California grid operator, the California Independent Systems Operator (CAISO), has resorted to asking Californians to reduce their electricity consumption, which Center of the American Experiment has confirmed means not charging electric vehicles.
California ISO @California_ISO California, it’s almost time! #FlexAlert today, July 12, from 4-9 p.m. Now is the time to:
• Set thermostats to 78 degrees, if health permits • Unplug unused electronic devices • Turn off unnecessary lights
(Excerpt) Read more at americanexperiment.org ...
Oops! Our bad! You can’t charge that vehicle to save the
planet, due to a higher need to save the state.
Change the name of the state to Caliphonyia and be done with it.
California is over 800 miles long N to S.
my first thought of the article, damned democrats
I still don’t understand how the electric car manufacturers haven’t designed a generator that’s able to recharge the batteries as the car drives.
We can recharge the battery on a gas-powered vehicle but not an electric one.
One other thing, why would we destroy a fully working industry for unreliable ones such as solar and wind.
The power to run the generator comes from somewhere. Gas powered cars that charge their own batteries use up more gas just to run the alternator (the charger). And that's with the understanding that the car isn't powered by the battery.
Expecting an EV to charge its own battery is like expecting a gas powered car to refine its own gas. It takes power to do that.
Hybrid vehicles do that a little. When you apply the brakes, the brakes charge the battery. Basically the momentum you're losing by slowing down is energy that's being "rerouted" into charging the battery. But that's re-using a little bit of energy from a process that doesn't happen often (braking). There's only so much you can get from that.
By the way. I'm not a green energy hater. I have lots of solar on my house because I like green energy from a decentralized stand point (if it works in your situation, you do it, but not force everybody to because it's usually a bad idea).
If I lived in CA, I’d make a road trip to Texas, and buy a gasoline powered generator to charge my EV. Sounds crazy, and I’ll never buy an EV, but that would be my plan.
Obviously they are non-essential.
Batteries self-discharge after they are charged. Last year I put gas in my tank in early March, and didn’t drive anywhere for several weeks. The tank was as full as before. The batteries in my camera lose their charge slowly over a period of several weeks. If you charge your car batteries and then don’t use your car, they will have lost part of their charge. Electrical engineers please supply the details.
In addition, batteries lose their ability to hold a charge, and can only be charged to a percent of the capacity they had when they were new. An old smartphone of mine wouldn’t hold its charge any more, no matter how long I left it charging. Replaced the battery and will watch the cycle play out again. With an electric car your batteries will become dead weight, and you’ll have to replace them for big bucks.
The cost of replacement, the lost power, the cost of building charging stations, and the subsidies must all be factored into the equation.
and what happens when all the Government vehicles are Electric ,oops little people you’re on your own
Indeed. They should have a power line carrying only "green" energy for their home so they can enjoy the times of darkness and no wind.
No problem. Attach a sail to the roof of the car and hope it’s a windy day.😉
I'm 100% with you. And I have a bunch of solar. I don't have solar to try to stop global warming or anything like that. (We ought to be glad we've been moving away from the Little Ice Age. If we're lucky our Current Warm Period will get as warm as the Medieval Warm Period.) And I certainly don't like the one-size-fits-hardly-anybody approach with green energy the Dims push.
I put a bunch of solar onto my house (producing around 3/4ths of what I consume) in part because I'm afraid of the control-freak Dims messing up the good thing of electricity. Few things I've done in life are more truly libertarian than reducing my dependency on what politicians at the federal or local level do to restrict our freedoms to enrich their cronies "for our benefit". On rare times I pull 13 kW from the grid, never more than that. And I keep a two-story house cool even in the Alabama summer, again with 3/4ths of the power made from my own solar.
If the Dims don't jack up electricity prices my solar system will pay for itself in about 12 years (assuming 2% to 3% inflation rate of kWh). If they keep messing with energy (i.e. Obama forced some close plants to shut down, which forced some power co's to use more natural gas, now Biden is doing some fracking bans and jacking up the price of natural gas, which will result in higher electricity costs in the power co's energy riders), then my solar system will pay for itself a lot sooner.
Once its paid for itself any money I save beyond that will be for repairs and upgrades. If EV's keep improving I might buy one (maybe the F-150 Lightning if it's as good as advertised, but only after its been around a few years and I buy it used), but keep a gas car too for long trips and such.
I work from home half the time. And I average about 2.7 hours per day that my solar batteries are fully charged. That basically means my solar system has excess power that it has nowhere to go to be useful (don't get me started on why I don't do the power buyback option in Alabama). So if anyone is a good candidate for charging an EV, it's me. Most of my charging wouldn't be at night (think of all the EV's that are charged only after they get home from work in the evening), so I could take advantage of the unused solar power during the day. If the Dims keep jacking up gas prices like they want (never forget all the times Dims said it'd be a good way to bleed us off our carbon pollution, like CO2 is bad anyway -- plants need it), it wouldn't effect me as much.
But all of that works only for the few people in my situation, not for most people. I love green energy if you've done a detailed analysis on your own energy consumption, determine if green energy is good for you, and design a system custom for your energy usage. It's not for most people and its certainly shouldn't be mandated like the Dims are doing.
But if you live in the south (good sunshine, and most of our power consumption is during the summer to run A/C), plan to be there for 15 years, have no trees blocking your roof, and have a sizeable portion of your roof facing south (towards the equator to get more sun during the winter), I'd consider solar.
Why is that mean reality being so different than the propaganda???
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Oh, and don’t think about walking
Not what I’m saying. No ability to go on the grid for these folks.
If the folks that want to save the planet by buying a Tesla want to charge the batteries, let them go all in. Let them save the planet by using nothing but ‘renewable energy’.
Not allowed to go on the grid for anything.
Why, IMHO? Because damn near all of them, if not 100% of them is virtue signaling. “Hey, everybody, look at me. I have an electric car. One that many of you may have helped my pay taxes on with the tax incentives that your politicians gave me for no reason whatsoever. And when I get home I’ll plug it in to my outlet that has electricity coming from a coal fired power plant. The charging of which produces more waste than if I had a car with a gas engine. But, hey, I’m cool”.
Talk the talk, Walk the Walk.
Yes.
I bought up a bunch of 100 w incandescent for the winter. 3 of them on desk lamps on my model building table warms things up nicely when I am building. Switch to LED in the summer.
I see a hugh market for mounted and portable mini-wind turbines and solar panel arrays trailers.
It will be like “Mad Max” with gang wars fighting over the dwindling supplies of gasoline, after the grid has failed entirely, but California still prohibits the sale of gas.
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