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What’s Conservative about the Pledge of Allegiance?
It was written by Francis Bellamy, a Christian Socialist pushed out of his post as a Baptist minister for delivering pulpit‐pounding sermons on such topics as “Jesus the Socialist.”
I understand that some people think that teaching children the Pledge is a form of indoctrination. Indoctrination is repeating an idea or belief to someone until they believe it. As this idea or belief is repeated, no proof is given for it, and no questions or discussions are allowed. The Pledge is not indoctrination if children are taught the accurate history of our country and understand the meaning of the pledge to our flag.
The United States flag is a symbol for freedom, and freedom is essential to life. It stands for individual rights, and individual rights are essential in order to pursue happiness. When I pledge to the flag, in my mind I know that I am pledging to the original ideals put forth by the founding fathers: life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Therefore, it is logical to say that you're teaching children about the fidelity that the Pledge represents — the fidelity of the concept of individual rights.
Well said!
If we do not infuse patriotism into our children, what will take its place? CRT? Gender confusion? BLM with a side of white hate? Government is god?
Started by Frank Bellamy, an American Christian socialist.
They can’t be forced to say it: West Virginia State Board of Education v . Barnette, 319 U.S. 624 (1943).
Children should all memorize and understand the Pledge of Allegiance and the National Anthem. They live in this country and benefit from all it offers both citizens and foreign residents.
In my time, public school children learned both and the Lord’s Prayer as well.
Damn well better “indoctrinate” them in the freedom the American flag represents...or they will not have any freedom.
Very good points. Our country has become very libertarian, both liberals and conservatives feel that anyone should be able to believe whatever they want.
The problem is that has created a generation that believes in nothing. A civilization can’t survive that.
I think we should worry about recent things like gender confusion before trying to jump back to something from decades ago.
Public schools shouldn't even exist. This idea that knowledge can ever be politicized has no place in a free nation of normal, civilized human beings.
No child should be required to repeat a formula in public if his parents object.
I believe there is a USSC precedent from the 1940s regarding Jehovah’s Witnesses that addresses this exact issue.
Now, this does not mean that refuseniks should be protected from hearing OTHERS recite the pledge, it does not mean that the pledge should be banned or discouraged.
It just means that REQUIRING objecting families to make their children submit is a bad idea.
Rituals are how a society passes on values to the next generation. Remove, devalue, or destroy those rituals and society become ripe for change. This is what the Statist / Marxists want. They know that as long as America holds true to Americana, then they have no hope of taking over the country.
I’m 63 years old. And even back when I was a young ‘un, there was no rule compelling children to recite the pledge.
“I pledge allegiance to the United States of America, one nation, indivisible, under God, for real.”
What’s Conservative about the Pledge of Allegiance?
It was written by Francis Bellamy, a Christian Socialist pushed out of his post as a Baptist minister for delivering pulpit‐pounding sermons on such topics as “Jesus the Socialist.”
I support waterboard children and adults who are in this country illegally.
“...and to the Republic for which it stood.”
No, it can’t be required. Not if you want to also preserve liberty.
If we want to insist that nobody can force us to use “transgender” pronouns, then we also have to acknowledge that nobody can force you to say the Pledge. That’s liberty.
I don’t think my children need to be forced to say the plodge of Alliegence but they could copy me when I say it
Children have never been required to recite the pledge. Since I was a child 60 years ago kids could and did opt out even in arch conservative rural Oklahoma. They just stepped out of the room during the pledge and the prayer. Nobody held a gun to their head, nobody excoriated them or gave it more than a passing thought and then forgot it.
My late Momma continued both Pledge and Prayer into the Mid-90s when she retired from teaching. The stupidtendant tried to stop her but the outcry from the community beat him down. She was ignored by him and continued her way. The community had hired her, supported her and most even loved her after she taught at least three of their generations in poor rural Oklahoma. Nobody really stood a chance against Momma, her God and her principles. Momma never stood on a soap box and shouted her principles urging others to do as she said, she just acted on them. We would all be better off if we had more like her.
Divisive politics and reporting. More wedges to drive us all apart.
the pledge represents good ideals you say. But I look around at our country and see legalized murder of 50 million + unborn babies. The celebration of all sorts of perverse types of sex via “sex education.” The government’s endorsement on the local, state and federal level of gay pride events among a whole host of other politically correct BS. Look at how the government rewards the dissolution of families: How they got rid of no fault divorce and make men pay money to a cheating ex, “for the good of the children.” The list can go on much longer. The USA in many ways is calling good evil and evil good. I WILL NOT say the pledge of allegiance.