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Why most people who now die with Covid in England have been vaccinated
UK Guardian ^ | 6/27/21 | David Spiegelhalter and Anthony Masters

Posted on 06/27/2021 9:27:40 AM PDT by proust

Don’t think of this as a bad sign, it’s exactly what’s expected from an effective but imperfect jab.

A MailOnline headline on 13 June read: “Study shows 29% of the 42 people who have died after catching the new strain had BOTH vaccinations.” In Public Health England’s technical briefing on 25 June, that figure had risen to 43% (50 of 117), with the majority (60%) having received at least one dose.

It could sound worrying that the majority of people dying in England with the now-dominant Delta (B.1.617.2) variant have been vaccinated. Does this mean the vaccines are ineffective? Far from it, it’s what we would expect from an effective but imperfect vaccine, a risk profile that varies hugely by age and the way the vaccines have been rolled out.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: antivaxporn; breakthrough; ccpvirus; chat; chinaflu; chinavirus; chinavirusvaccine; covid; fakenews; grauniad; kungflu; moogoogaipandemic; mortality; scamdemic; vaccine; wuflu; wuhanflu; wuhanvirus
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To: palmer

None of them were properly tested.

You have no idea what the long-term effects are and you don’t care because shut up.


21 posted on 06/27/2021 10:38:31 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Tse-tung)
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To: BitWielder1

So, perfesser, how do you know what the long-term effects of the “vaccines” are, since long-term testing was not performed.

Divine revelation?


22 posted on 06/27/2021 10:39:47 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Tse-tung)
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To: proust

23 posted on 06/27/2021 10:43:41 AM PDT by Veggie Todd (Religion. It's like a History class. Without the facts. )
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To: proust

“Don’t think of this as a bad sign”

NOTE: The Guardian has this under the heading of “news” and not OPINION.


24 posted on 06/27/2021 10:44:12 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: phoneman08

Thanks. I heard about Noravax. I have not been paying much attention to vaccines from China, since I would trust it less than big pharma.


25 posted on 06/27/2021 10:45:46 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: proust

RE: “Study shows 29% of the 42 people who have died after catching the new strain had BOTH vaccinations.

First question, the vaccine aside, did Covid kill them or did they have other conditions?

Some possibilities:

1) Covid killed them

2) They had morbid conditions and they died because of these.

3) The vaccine killed them

- ADD YOUR THEORY HERE -


26 posted on 06/27/2021 10:45:47 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: proust

...because they don’t want zombies walking around with the Covid.


27 posted on 06/27/2021 10:47:09 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity.)
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To: proust
Talk about pretzel logic!

It doesn't do what it's supposed to and it may kill you...aside from that, how did you like the play, Mrs Lincoln?

28 posted on 06/27/2021 10:54:06 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix circa 1984.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

3,700,000 global CCP virus deaths out of a global population of 7,900,000,000 = 0.05% (and those numbers are padded with motorcycle deaths, etc.), the average age was 80, the median age was 78.

The overwhelming number of the people who died were obese and old with one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel.

This is not the case with the people dying from the “cure.”

We don’t need your experimental “vaccine,” and experimenting on unwilling human subjects is a crime against humanity.


29 posted on 06/27/2021 10:58:59 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Tse-tung)
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To: proust
Paraphrasing a post from Urgent warning from Israel as jab death toll rises | (tapnewswire.com)

"The linked document is from the gov.uk website, and was published by SPI-M-O on the 31st of March. It states on page 10 paragraph 32 of the expected roadmap out of lockdown, that they anticipate a 3rd wave of infections in August. It also states that they expect 60-70% of the expected hospital admissions and DEATHS to come from those who have had both vaccinations.If this isn’t proof for anybody that the vaccines are intended for genocide then I don’t know what is.Here is the link to the gov.uk published analysis

Research and analysis
SPI-M-O: Summary of further modelling of easing restrictions – Roadmap Step 2, 31 March 2021
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/spi-m-o-summary-of-further-modelling-of-easing-restrictions-roadmap-step-2-31-march-2021"

30 posted on 06/27/2021 10:59:51 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
...The plandemic was never about the virus.

The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the Revolution. Thanks to the Big Scare they made elections even more Fraud Friendly and replaced a Real President with a drooling moron.

31 posted on 06/27/2021 11:05:10 AM PDT by Nateman (If the Left Is not screaming , you are doing it wrong..)
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To: proust

I listened to the inventor of the mRNA technology on the podcast Dark Horse. According to him, and I’m taking license here, but I’ll link to the podcast. We don’t know that the vaccine is safe. We don’t know for certain that it is unsafe. But we are vaccinating millions of people with little regard to the bad reactions, some of which would have resulted in another drug being withdrawn. The data simply isn’t there to justify the level of risk our society is taking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9ZXBsSkYLE&t=0s

My take from following the podcast is that the vaccines are teaching our immune system to recognize only the variant the vaccine was made for. When a new variant comes along, it triggers the immune system to manufacture a virus attack vector that is inappropriate. But having learned what to do, the immune system exhausts itself making the wrong thing to fight the new virus variant. Thus, the vaccine protects initially, but cause harm later.

If that’s the case, we’ll see a lot of people desperately trying to justify the position they took earlier by discrediting any opposing theory. They’ll do this until everyone vaccinated dies.


32 posted on 06/27/2021 11:10:16 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? A)
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To: upsdriver

57 days after his second Pfizer vaccination, my son in law died of congestive heart failure. 51 years old. Healthy before the vaccinations. Four beautiful children left fatherless.


33 posted on 06/27/2021 11:39:24 AM PDT by grame (May you know more of the love of God Almighty this day!)
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To: palmer

If I already have deadly cancer then I would consider it. If it is for a virus that I may not even catch, no way. Cancer patients who have received this are a very small portion of the population as opposed to “everybody must get vaccinated”.


34 posted on 06/27/2021 11:53:35 AM PDT by Neverlift (When someone says "you just can't make this stuff up" odds are good, somebody did.)
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To: proust

rolling-it-back rationalization technique in effect


35 posted on 06/27/2021 12:06:10 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: proust

you have to have it

its totally safe

you’ll be fine

its been fully tested

we’re going to mandate so you may as well take it else you’ll be cut out from society, jobs, going into stores, etc

...oh hes dead...?

well we never said it wasn’t without risk...death was always a possibility, he knew the risks, it was experimental, after all, he voluntarily took it


36 posted on 06/27/2021 12:09:49 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: proust

But Darling...






I'm SURE that gaslight was flickering!

37 posted on 06/27/2021 12:14:51 PM PDT by left that other site (If you do not stand firm in your faith, you will not stand at all. (Isaiah 7:9))
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To: proust
Don’t think of this as a bad sign, it’s exactly what’s expected from an effective but imperfect jab.

Evil.
38 posted on 06/27/2021 1:54:26 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: BenLurkin

“NOTE: The Guardian has this under the heading of “news” and not OPINION.”

Well, we’ve had over a year of Fauci’s opinions broadcast as TRUTH and SCIENCE.


39 posted on 06/27/2021 2:51:18 PM PDT by proust (All posts made under this handle are, for the intents and purposes of the author, considered satire.)
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To: Candor7

>>Nothing like hoodwinking the People<<
Interesting masonic term used. lol


40 posted on 06/27/2021 3:53:54 PM PDT by servantboy777
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