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Epshteyn says Constitution does not prohibit Trump reinstatement, matter has never been ruled upon
https://justthenews.com ^ | Updated: June 21, 2021 - 10:21pm | By Alex Nitzberg

Posted on 06/22/2021 7:29:16 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Deo volente
It just makes conservatives and patriots look like a bunch of loonies.

Better looking like a loony than being a willing rape and robbery victim.

Or do you prefer not doing anything while your country is stolen, your personal wealth (such as it is) is stolen and redistributed, and generations of your children and theirs living under a uniquely American version of the worst of Stasi and CCP totalitarianism?

May as well lay back and enjoy it, eh?

Don't be late for your train departure...

21 posted on 06/22/2021 8:09:33 AM PDT by null and void ( I doubt that "voters" have any real influence over the process. We already know who counts the vote)
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To: Red Badger

It’s so refreshing to see so many in this post refuse to play into the fantasies about “reinstatement”.

The only path forward in the real world is to expose the fraud that took place so that future elections can be made more secure. It’s nothing but a waste of time, energy, and money trying to overturn the results of the Electoral College 2021 vote for Joe Biden. Efforts should be laser focused on fixing the problems so future elections are fair and transparent.


22 posted on 06/22/2021 8:10:09 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: william clark

Trump can petition the Supreme court. The Court will say that he has no standing. /S (Or is it???)


23 posted on 06/22/2021 8:10:52 AM PDT by themidnightskulker (And then the thread dies... peacefully, in it's sleep....)
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To: Red Badger
the matter will go before the Supreme Court.

That gives me so much hope./s

24 posted on 06/22/2021 8:13:12 AM PDT by Armando Guerra
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To: Red Badger

Roberts would never allow this. The worst is that both BeijingBiden and our ToffeeVeep are thrown out and Pelosi steps in. To get DJTrump back in office would require a nuke of DC.


25 posted on 06/22/2021 8:15:06 AM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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To: Red Badger

A Sampling of Recent Election Fraud Cases from Across the United States

https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud

Map by state goes to data table


26 posted on 06/22/2021 8:15:35 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Red Badger
The 20th amendment has provisions for inaugurating an "Acting President" if the President Elect "fails to qualify."

Amendment 20

If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.
The Constitution has a clear process for handling the case where a President does not qualify or is not decided in time for inauguration.

This is why I've been floating an idea that is based on the 20th amendment.


As long as we're dreaming, here is a possible Constitutional solution if the stolen election is proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

  1. Mass calls for resignation of key Democrats in the House of Representatives. Special elections fill those seats with Republicans.
  2. Democrat Senators who won in stolen swing states are hounded to resign. Governors appoint the actual winning candidate to the seats.
  3. Congress invokes the 20th amendment and declares ex post facto that the President-Elect did not qualify, should not have been sworn into office, and declares the Presidency and Vice-Presidency vacant. This is not an ex post facto law, as it is already in the 20th amendment. The only question is arguing the legitimacy of declaring no statue of limitations on "failing to qualify" and of not letting criminals profit from their crimes (fruit of the poisonous tree).
  4. Via the 20th amendment, Congress declares the actual winner (President Trump) to fill the vacancy as "Acting President" until the office can be filled by someone who qualifies.
  5. Via the 20th amendment, Congress passes a law moving the Presidential election up to 2022, and that it will forever be on a new four-year schedule beginning in 2022. This will satisfy Presidential term limits, as Trump will fill less than half of Biden's illegitimate term and then get his own second term. He won't be penalized for losing part of his term because of Democrat criminality.
  6. The asterisk in the history books explaining the change in the Presidential cycle will forever be a stain on the nation caused by Democrats, along with slavery, Jim Crow, Plessy v Ferguson, and opposition to the Civil Rights of 1964.

-PJ
27 posted on 06/22/2021 8:18:08 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (* LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: ctdonath2

Screw that crap. Scorch the earth!


28 posted on 06/22/2021 8:18:25 AM PDT by Manic_Episode ( “Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.”)
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To: srmanuel

Seems like it’s going to take a couple of years to know the truth anyway at which point reinstatement would be kind of pointless.


29 posted on 06/22/2021 8:26:03 AM PDT by Pollard
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To: null and void

Do you seriously want a system where Democrats can eternally harass legitimate Republican winners? they’re very good at that.

Remember: the STATES choose the President, by whatever means they legislate for themselves separately. Congress receives the certified votes, on the whole trusting the state representatives. An opportunity to reject is presented for a limited time, and the decision is final.

At some point the election must be over.

As of yet there is no definitive proof that enough fraud occurred to throw the election. This is very hard to prove, and “prove” is very narrow and objective (“that’s BS!” isn’t proof).

Do I think the election was stolen? Yes. I don’t have the proof. Those tasked with certifying certified. Opportunity to object was given, and those tasked with rejecting didn’t (f Pence). It’s done.

You don’t want a system where objection unto replacement is unlimited. Assess, regroup, fix election laws, and WIN THE NEXT ELECTION.


30 posted on 06/22/2021 8:27:09 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (All worry about monsters that'll eat our face, but it's our job to ask WHY it wants to eat our face.)
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later
31 posted on 06/22/2021 8:28:15 AM PDT by ELS
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To: Political Junkie Too

Do that, and Democrats will forever harass Republican winners into impotence and oblivion. You saw what they did with impeachment.


32 posted on 06/22/2021 8:29:46 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (All worry about monsters that'll eat our face, but it's our job to ask WHY it wants to eat our face.)
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To: ctdonath2
That assumes that the Democrats remain the power that they are after the fraud is exposed.

-PJ

33 posted on 06/22/2021 8:32:49 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (* LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Boogieman

“that states do have a right to decertify”

They probably do, but they would only be decertifying electors who have already voted in an electoral college vote that has also already been certified. The states decertifying their elections won’t do anything to decertify the electoral college vote, nor would it remove the sitting president, so this is just fantasy.

Maybe not. Certification of a fraudulent election is a felony crime. So a state theoretically could repeal its states electors due to a felony crime beng committed. But then there is an even larger issue, the down ballot. At least 3 maybe 4 senate seats were stolen. Also remember this all for some damn reason favors 1 party, the Democraps, who only hold power in the house by a few seats and a 50/50 lock in the Senate. People just won’t stand for 9 assholes in robes punting due to standing. The corruption will be too much for people to handle. So no legitimate power in the House, the Senate or the White House, and Biden and Harris are too weak for pulling the dictatorship card. Uncharted waters at this time and the storm is coming!


34 posted on 06/22/2021 8:39:10 AM PDT by The MAGA-Deplorian (Democrats are lawless because Republicans are ball-less)
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To: irishjuggler

It’s delusional to think they’ll take it upon themselves to nullify it all after the fact.


Its also delusional to think that the Democrats will relinquish the voting system and allow fair elections, no matter what laws are passed or what audits prove


35 posted on 06/22/2021 8:48:25 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: ctdonath2
Do you seriously want a system where Democrats can eternally harass legitimate Republican winners?

They do that now.

They did it to Trump, they did it to Bush (both), the did it to Reagan, they did it to Nixon.

-PJ

36 posted on 06/22/2021 8:50:39 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (* LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Red Badger
It will never happen. Even if it were possible, there isn't enough time before the next presidential election.

Even if the evidence was 100% incontrovertible, signed, sealed and delivered the legal fights would last beyond Biden's term. Not to mention that overwhelming evidence means nothing today.

37 posted on 06/22/2021 8:53:27 AM PDT by Paco
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To: G Larry

Doesn’t matter. There is no way in hell the founders would have tolerated the constitution being twisted to protect a criminal who used outright fraud to steal an election.

No matter what is or isn’t in the constitution, Trump must be restored to the office he rightfully won. By any means necessary is very likely what the founders would have said.

It’s insane to pretend we have to stay within the confines of the constitution when they literally stole an election.


38 posted on 06/22/2021 9:00:12 AM PDT by DesertRhino (A coup government may not claim the protection of the same constitution it overthrew. )
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To: Political Junkie Too

That’s why it’s worthwhile to expose the fraud.
Just don’t expect to depose Biden and install Trump.


39 posted on 06/22/2021 9:00:19 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (All worry about monsters that'll eat our face, but it's our job to ask WHY it wants to eat our face.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

They haven’t harassed by means of endlessly auditing individual votes everywhere until they can disqualify/alter/lose enough to achieve a winning score, then depose & replace their target. You’re trying to open that door.


40 posted on 06/22/2021 9:03:34 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (All worry about monsters that'll eat our face, but it's our job to ask WHY it wants to eat our face.)
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