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Epshteyn says Constitution does not prohibit Trump reinstatement, matter has never been ruled upon
https://justthenews.com ^ | Updated: June 21, 2021 - 10:21pm | By Alex Nitzberg

Posted on 06/22/2021 7:29:16 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Fred Nerks

“would suggest that states do have a right to decertify. And from then, it’s an open question what happens next.” >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

This is interesting. Maybe the Donald will be reinstated. And for 4 years too. Everything Biden has signed will be null and void.


61 posted on 06/22/2021 10:36:34 AM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism:http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html) )
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To: CaptainKip

There doesn’t seem to be anything at all in that statute that applies to legislatures certifying an election.


62 posted on 06/22/2021 10:42:50 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
“Certification of a fraudulent election is a felony crime.” Under what law? 52 US CODE 20511 -Criminal penalties The electors already voted, their job is finished and Congress already certified the results of the vote. They certified a crime, putting them in the Treason Zone, and again 52 US Code comes into play. The fraud BTW is at the fedeeral (president) and state level ( congress and senate) Also realize who you are dealing with. We are governed by utter cowards. Once the Democrap fraud is seen, tell me who is going to have the balls on either party to say "bend over and take it?" They are changing election law as we speak, which s akin to bringing the wife flowers after beating the hell out of her the night before.. Add in hyper inflation, high food prices, CRT, high tech censoring and the other lies the government has been telling, and its game over. You are witnessing the largest deep state sting operation in history. Thats why the left is sh!tting itself. This cannot be stopped!
63 posted on 06/22/2021 10:47:34 AM PDT by The MAGA-Deplorian (Democrats are lawless because Republicans are ball-less)
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To: Red Badger
,,,he believes that the matter will go before the Supreme Court.

It won't.

64 posted on 06/22/2021 10:53:21 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: The MAGA-Deplorian

“52 US CODE 20511 -Criminal penalties”

There doesn’t actually seem to be anything in that statute that applies to legislatures certifying an election.

“They certified a crime, putting them in the Treason Zone, and again 52 US Code comes into play.”

Again, that statute doesn’t say anything at all about certifying an election, and treason of course would require the involvement of a foreign enemy during wartime so that doesn’t seem to apply either.

What you’re going to see is most likely the little fish getting punished, just like in every election cycle. It will be the people they catch red-handed turning in fraudulent registrations or perhaps some egregious cases of multiple voting or tabulation fraud that they have enough evidence to prove. Certainly there’s enough circumstantial evidence that we can see there was a multi-state conspiracy going on, so it could rise to a RICO type case, but for that, you’d need the “little fish” to roll over and testify, which they won’t do when they’ll probably only face fines or a few months in jail for the stuff we’ll be able to convict them of.

“You are witnessing the largest deep state sting operation in history. Thats why the left is sh!tting itself. This cannot be stopped!”

Yeah, I’m not a hopium addict, so no I don’t think that’s the case.


65 posted on 06/22/2021 11:22:29 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Red Badger; All
“... he believes that the matter will go before the Supreme Court.“

Why bother? The Supreme Court doesn’t believe in the rule of law. Quite frankly, I’d say they’re deep state.

66 posted on 06/22/2021 11:51:15 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: Texas Fossil
Bingo, We Have a WINNER!

May it be so.

As someone who has been aware of your posing history, I can't help but wonder if you reeealllly mean:

Every FRAUDULENT Ballot
Every State

67 posted on 06/22/2021 12:14:50 PM PDT by null and void ( I doubt that "voters" have any real influence over the process. We already know who counts the vote)
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To: null and void
As someone who has been aware of your posing history, I can't help but wonder if you reeealllly mean:

Every FRAUDULENT Ballot

Every State

"posing history" WHAT?

I have no idea what you're talking about.

68 posted on 06/22/2021 12:22:33 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Candor7

I’m pleased to explicitly be included in that!


69 posted on 06/22/2021 12:24:10 PM PDT by null and void ( I doubt that "voters" have any real influence over the process. We already know who counts the vote)
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To: Boogieman
Even if by some means, Trump becomes President again in a few months or a year and assuming three Senate seats are flipped to the GOP (Arizona, Georgia, and Michigan), the nation would be returning to the same situation we had between 2017 and 2020. In Congress, you would still have the treacherous Republican leadership of McConnell and McCarthy and Pelosi remaining as Speaker of the House. The likes of Romney, The Federal law enforcement agencies would be attacking Trump and his supporters, as they did in his first term against General Flynn and Stone. The rest of the civilian bureaucracy would be dragging its heels to enforce executive orders. Nothing was done to curb Big Tech censorship in Trump's first term. The military would be openly hostile to President Trump, as it was from 2017-20. Overall, Trump was the least powerful President since James Buchanan. But Buchanan's weakness was due to his vacillating personality, while Trump, while having a far more powerful government and strong character, was not able to accomplish his goals because of internal resistance.

Without a thorough purge, a second Trump term would be stymied. If there is to be any hope, it must be via purging RINOs in the primaries, cleaning up state election processes, and winning a majority of both houses of Congress. McCarthy and McConnell must be removed from leadership and replaced with solid conservatives.

70 posted on 06/22/2021 12:41:39 PM PDT by Wallace T. ( )
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To: null and void

I’ve been right here, staying on topic. Democrats are not relentlessly auditing every Presidential vote cast on grounds that they can revert the election with enough creativity.

If proof of election fraud is revealed, we prosecute the offenders and fix the system so it can’t happen again.

To force a bank robber to return what he stole, you have to prove he stole.

Stacy Abrams didn’t concede either; that doesn’t mean she gets to be governor of Georgia - even if a vote audit shows she won, after certification and inauguration.

Yes, well e have to battle Democrats forever. Don’t demolish the system just because they subverted it once.


71 posted on 06/22/2021 2:09:54 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (All worry about monsters that'll eat our face, but it's our job to ask WHY it wants to eat our face.)
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To: null and void

Re: 21 - Thanks for adding the drama associated with “Don’t be late for your train departure”.

Classy.


72 posted on 06/22/2021 2:12:43 PM PDT by Fury
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To: ctdonath2
Democrats are not relentlessly auditing every Presidential vote cast on grounds that they can revert the election with enough creativity.

Democrats are not relentlessly auditing because in just about every state in question the state itself did recounts and audits. Why would the Democrats pay for something to confirm their wins that the states have already done?

73 posted on 06/22/2021 2:19:44 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: null and void

Imagine what would happen if the 5 swing states decertified?

Nancy would have the 12 foot fence back, the concertina wire, and this time would likely get her crew served machine guns, all surrounding the Capitol.

But the fact is, the fraudulent Dems who benefited would have to relinquish their seats or be indicted , tried and jailed.

That trial may be in the states where they decertified, or ot may be before a national military court. What happend was treason.


74 posted on 06/22/2021 2:22:33 PM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism:http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html) )
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To: The MAGA-Deplorian
“Certification of a fraudulent election is a felony crime.”

Who decides that it was a fraudulent election? For example, in Arizona you have the state authorities saying it's valid based on state recount and state audits. And you have Cyber Ninja saying it was fraudulent. It's a he said/she said situation. Is Cyber Ninja going to take their findings to court?

75 posted on 06/22/2021 2:25:03 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Candor7
Maybe the Donald will be reinstated.

There is no constitutional remedy that can put Trump in the White House at this late date. None whatsoever.

76 posted on 06/22/2021 2:26:18 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Who decides that it was a fraudulent election? For example, in Arizona you have the state authorities saying it’s valid based on state recount and state audits.

A hand audit counts the ballots. It does not verify they are legitimate votes frm registared voters.

And you have Cyber Ninja saying it was fraudulent. It’s a he said/she said situation. Is Cyber Ninja going to take their findings to court?

Uh not quite. Its not a he says / she says when it comes to DNA is it? Its proof that the person did it or not. They knew the count was screwed up, but its the canvassing going on now that scares the crap out of them. Voter rolls are supposed to be clean. You go to one location were 23 people voted, or a P.O. Box were people voted, and you have real issues that are clear violations of the law. First they reveal it to the state legislatures. Once they discover that not only did their voters get screwed, but the Senate representitive (McSally) also got screwed. They have 2 choices: 1. Tell the people tough luck bend over and take it, they no longer are truly represented in DC and their vote isn’t for shit! Then their life span suddenly get lowered. Or 2. The reps get pissed off like the voters that got their votes screwed and put them into office, run scared, grow a pair and demand decertification of electors. We’ll see. August is going to be fun. Thats why the dems BTW all hired criminal lawyers to try to stop this. You don’t hire a criminal lawyer if there is no crime involved.


77 posted on 06/22/2021 5:01:11 PM PDT by The MAGA-Deplorian (Democrats are lawless because Republicans are ball-less)
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To: DoodleDawg
There is no constitutional remedy that can put Trump in the White House at this late date. None whatsoever.

But, but... people have claimed that President Trump implemented the Insurrection Act! And we are under martial law, but no one knows about it! And the military is going to run new elections!

Me thinks the people making these claims are starting to realize that they are... wrong.

78 posted on 06/22/2021 5:06:08 PM PDT by Fury
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To: Red Badger
This is exactly what some people here (FReepers) have been saying for awhile. I have been sitting on the fence since I have no idea about all of the laws and bylaws. (I truly hope it IS possible though.)
79 posted on 06/22/2021 6:05:16 PM PDT by Bikkuri (If you're conservative, you're an "extremist." If you're liberal, you're an "activist.")
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To: The MAGA-Deplorian
A hand audit counts the ballots. It does not verify they are legitimate votes frm registared voters.

Comparing the paper ballots against the machine results in select precincts is an audit.

Uh not quite

Yes it is. The state says the election was fair and Cyber Ninjas says it wasn't. It will take a court to rule one way or the other for the election results to be ruled fraudlent. It isn't fraudulent just because Cyber Ninjas says so.

80 posted on 06/23/2021 4:28:03 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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