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COVID IS NOW SAVING LIVES (2)
Powerline ^ | MAY 5, 2021 | JOHN HINDERAKER

Posted on 05/05/2021 10:15:04 AM PDT by Hojczyk

More precisely, fewer Americans are now dying than would be the case if the Wuhan virus did not exist. Total mortality in the U.S., per this CDC chart, is sinking like a stone and is now below demographic projections:

The last two weeks of data are incomplete, but the point is obvious. A large majority of “covid deaths” were people who were both elderly and already very sick. My own review of data from thousands of death certificates in Minnesota confirms that in most cases, given the number of severe conditions itemized as contributors to a “covid death”–i.e, one in which the word “covid” appears on the death certificate–it seems remarkable that the person was still alive at all.

I think the mortality statistics over the next couple of years will confirm that in most cases, people who died with “covid” on their death certificates would have died, in any event, in a matter of months or perhaps a year or two. This is why we are now seeing mortality dip below demographic norms: people who otherwise would have died in April 2021 died in, say, October 2020 instead. If this is the case, it will expose the irrationality of devastating the lives of younger and healthy people through shutdowns, school closings and mask mandates, while those who were at meaningful risk were almost exclusively those who, as one doctor put it, had one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel.

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1 posted on 05/05/2021 10:15:04 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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2 posted on 05/05/2021 10:16:10 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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If you’d look at the chart notes, you’d see that many reporting jurisdictions take weeks to report their deaths up to the CDC. Ergo, the numbers for recent weeks are very low and get adjusted as the reporting jurisdictions eventually report in.

In short, this article exists because somebody couldn’t read a footnote on a chart.


3 posted on 05/05/2021 10:20:51 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Pretty defensive, you are.


4 posted on 05/05/2021 10:28:22 AM PDT by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Hojczyk

yeh....this makes a lot of sense....


5 posted on 05/05/2021 10:29:57 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: ifinnegan

Not at all; just pointing out the fact that the chart itself lists in its own footnotes that many reporting jurisdictions take several weeks to provide their data. So the chart is incomplete, which means the whole premise for the post is flawed.


6 posted on 05/05/2021 10:32:19 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: ifinnegan

Here is the actual footnote:

“Number of deaths reported on this page are the total number of deaths received and coded as of the date of analysis and do not represent all deaths that occurred in that period. Data are incomplete because of the lag in time between when the death occurred and when the death certificate is completed, submitted to NCHS and processed for reporting purposes. This delay can range from 1 week to 8 weeks or more, depending on the jurisdiction and cause of death.”

And here is the link to the chart: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

Post is misleading at best.


7 posted on 05/05/2021 10:35:18 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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You are correct. Excess Deaths are usually 4 weeks back and maybe 5 to get accuracy. This chart showed negative Excess Deaths most of last year, if you looked at the most recent week at that point in time.

But make no mistake here, EDs are the gold standard. All Causes avoids misattribution. Blaming deaths incorrectly on Covid is something dodged when you examine All Causes.

When looking at EDs that chart is not really the best. You can select weekly deaths By Age and see the impact on elderly.

There’s another quote in the article that is similarly revealing of poor thinking. Noting that people were already sick and were going to die in a few weeks or months or a year or two anyway. This suggests those people did not deserve a year or two of life additional. Take a moment and look up life expectancy for 80 year olds. It’s not a year or two — and roughly 78% of everyone over 75 has a comorbidity, be it diabetes, hypertension or cholesterol issues.


8 posted on 05/05/2021 10:40:02 AM PDT by Owen
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I think the mortality statistics over the next couple of years will confirm that in most cases, people who died with “covid” on their death certificates would have died, in any event, in a matter of months or perhaps a year or two.

Early on, back in March or April of 2020, I remember there was a doctor in England who said the same thing. That the people who are dying of COVID would have likely died within a year anyway from their pre existing diseases.

It's a shame few people listened.

9 posted on 05/05/2021 10:41:51 AM PDT by FreeReign
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I heard all I needed to know when they stated they were including in the death count people who died with Covid and not just from Covid.
10 posted on 05/05/2021 10:44:59 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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The increased mortality is far less because of Covid than from the lockdowns and other idiotic measures taken. People who didn’t get treated for cancer, heart disease and the other real killers because they were afraid to go to the hospital or even their doctor have raised the numbers in this chart. People who have been isolated from their loved ones by the idiotic measures also die more frequently. People who used to go to buffets and restaurants and got fairly ballanced diets who instead have been eating at Taco Bell and McDonalds have a higher mortality rate. People who were staying active by going to the YMCA and other health clubs but stopped because the facilities were closed down have a higher mortality rate. People who have gained a bunch of weight because they have been sitting around their house eating junk food instead of getting out and doing something have a higher mortality rate.

“Sitting for long periods — such as in front of the TV or at a desk — appears to increase risk ... activity had a risk of dying similar to the risks of dying posed by obesity and smoking. “

https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/adult-health/expert-answers/sitting/faq-20058005

One of the largest increases in mortality is no doubt the excessive wearing of masks or face coverings which were never designed to stop a resperatory pathogen, and infect increase your chances of developing a serious infection. Cases of strep throat which have a great risk of advancing to pneumonia are up over 200% over this last year. I personally know two elderly obsessive mask wearers who came down with life threatening cases of pneumonia this past year. One of them died and one of them has permanent lung damage which will limit her activity level for the resrt of her life. The one who lived has had her masks taken away by her doctor. Both were extremely afraid of getting Covid.


11 posted on 05/05/2021 10:46:24 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

When it comes to information forwarded by the government or it’s cohorts we must apply Mark Twains’ adage.

There are lies, damn lies and statistics.

Therein lies the truth.


12 posted on 05/05/2021 10:46:33 AM PDT by JayAr36 (My disgust with government is complete.)
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To: fireman15

Sorry that I forgot to proof read.


13 posted on 05/05/2021 10:48:41 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
If you’d look at the chart notes, you’d see that many reporting jurisdictions take weeks to report their deaths up to the CDC. Ergo, the numbers for recent weeks are very low and get adjusted as the reporting jurisdictions eventually report in. In short, this article exists because somebody couldn’t read a footnote on a chart.

The author clearly states in the second paragraph of the article, what is in the footnote of the chart.

What part of, "The last two weeks of data are incomplete", don't you understand.

Ironically, your post exists because you "couldn't read" the second paragraph in the article.

14 posted on 05/05/2021 10:49:22 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

“Post is misleading at best.”

Could say that about yours as well.

Tell me if I am wrong.

This could be called the actuarial hypothesis.

Author says it’s already being seen.

You say data is premature and what he sees is an artifact of reporting.

“...many reporting jurisdictions take several weeks to provide their data.”

I assume reporting districts are counties.

Question. How many are “many”.

Do you know?

What time frame do you say would provide enough time to have complete enough records to assess the actuarial hypothesis?


15 posted on 05/05/2021 10:56:37 AM PDT by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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I’d like to see an increase in the mortality rate (hung by neck until dead) of all the criminal politicians, bureaucrats and media slime who have pushed this bs for the past 15 months.


16 posted on 05/05/2021 11:01:07 AM PDT by Newtoidaho (All I ask of living is to have no chains on me.)
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A large majority of “covid deaths” were people who were both elderly and already very sick.

I'd wondered for some time if the huge drop in total new cases nationwide was because many of the most vulnerable to COVID-19 became infected in the first waves that ended early this year. And now fewer in our population are as a prone to becoming infected and seriously ill.

Makes as much sense as anything else I've heard and not enough had been vaccinated and developed immunity by January when the huge decreases began.

17 posted on 05/05/2021 11:12:13 AM PDT by Will88 (The only people opposing voter ID are those benefiting from voter fraud.)
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To: FreeReign

It isn’t two weeks. It’s 8 weeks or more. Read the actual page rather than this agenda-pushing misinformed author’s nonsense.


18 posted on 05/05/2021 11:26:26 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: ifinnegan

Based on what I’ve seen watching that page over the past year pretty frequently, you need at least 8 weeks to get ~95% of the total deaths reported. By about 12 weeks, you have a fairly solid number. Anything after that is a very small change. Probably some tiny town that has one person doing multiple jobs and doesn’t have time to submit everything right away.


19 posted on 05/05/2021 11:36:58 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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April 27 2021 Facebook Jail for another 30 days.

Why, because I stated my opinion. I called the “Covid pandemic” a fraud.

Stating …. “Preventatives were out there.” “Cures were out there” “and the numbers were screwed up to push the fraud.”

Facts?

Preventative supplements were out there, Vitamin D3, Vit. C, Zinc and Magnesium were out there for about 10 cents per day dosage. Hundreds of reports verifying the positive and preventative effects were out there from medical experts and being reported.

Cures for the sickness were out there, also from medical experts. Ivermectin, Hydroxychloroquine and Remdesivir. Given when diagnosed with the Covid it is generally gone within a week. .....

And HERE IN MINNESOTA can you imagine A State Governor (Walz) Ordering pharmacies, CVS, Walgreens, etc TO NOT PRESCRIBE THE CURES ORDERED BY DOCTORS FOR THEIR PATIENTS???!!!

And the “NUMBERS?” - Look at the tragedy of thousands of sick people placed into senior living and nursing homes where so many more would knowingly become infected and die. So tragic that they passed away locked in isolation unable to have their family or friends with them as they died from the mistakes of those governors. And the reports are out there that more money was made from each of those deaths that could be attributed to Covid!

20 posted on 05/05/2021 11:38:31 AM PDT by high info voter
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