Oh, So Now Herd Immunity Cannot Be Obtained?

Townhall.com ^ | 3 May A.D. 2021 | Matt Vespa

[lightman]

There are no more experts. They know nothing. So, don’t listen to them. Okay, maybe that’s not actually fair—but the real experts are being ignored by the liberal media for a simple reason: they want the COVID panic to continue. They want more deaths to occur. They want a spike. They want to keep the nation locked down. It’s partially out of spite. Blue states are still under Nazi-esque lockdown rules—and their cases are still bad. Not like last year, but Michigan is seeing a massive spike, whereas Texas who nixed their mask mandate over five weeks ago and reopened fully has seen no spikes—none. Florida has also been a state that has managed its COVID crisis better than the media gave it credit for, painting Gov. Ron DeSantis as the grim reaper. It turns out the entire media establishment ate it on that one—no shock. The good news is that even though Democratic states cannot manage COVID, there is no fourth wave. A spike in one state—Michigan, does not make a wave no matter what the CDC says. Even Dr. Anthony Fauci has said he doesn’t think there’s going to be a fourth wave. And alas, here is the circus. The CDC saying there’s “impending doom,” which was voiced around spring break to Fauci saying, ‘nah, that ain’t happening.’ The messaging on COVID protocols has been a mess; the ones with vaccines has been even worse. An MIT study pretty much gutted or cast immense doubt on the effectiveness and purpose of air filtration systems, indoor capacity caps, and even mask wearing. Folks think they’re protected wearing a mask. Nope. It’s an airborne virus. If you’re inside with someone exposed, that mask isn’t doing much, whether it be six or sixty feet apart. It’s all a mess, and now we have this garbage about not reaching herd immunity (via NYT):

Early in the pandemic, when vaccines for the coronavirus were still just a glimmer on the horizon, the term “herd immunity” came to signify the endgame: the point when enough Americans would be protected from the virus so we could be rid of the pathogen and reclaim our lives.

Now, more than half of adults in the United States have been inoculated with at least one dose of a vaccine. But daily vaccination rates are slipping, and there is widespread consensus among scientists and public health experts that the herd immunity threshold is not attainable — at least not in the foreseeable future, and perhaps not ever.

Instead, they are coming to the conclusion that rather than making a long-promised exit, the virus will most likely become a manageable threat that will continue to circulate in the United States for years to come, still causing hospitalizations and deaths but in much smaller numbers.

How much smaller is uncertain and depends in part on how much of the nation, and the world, becomes vaccinated and how the coronavirus evolves. It is already clear, however, that the virus is changing too quickly, new variants are spreading too easily and vaccination is proceeding too slowly for herd immunity to be within reach anytime soon.

We discussed this before, including medical doctors. Do you see what’s missing? There is a glaring omission: natural immunity. The coverage on COVID has become so bad that liberal data crunchers, like Nate Silver, are coming off as conservative on social media, as he’s taken a hatchet to some of the narratives being peddled out here. He recently said there were “a lot of bad takes” about how Florida handled COVID. Dr. Marty Makary of Johns Hopkins also weighed in, saying the article omits herd immunity. Others also noted that the Times doesn’t seem to know the difference between herd immunity and eradication.

Look, the vaccine is a choice. I got it. A ton of my friends have as well, but we also know that the messaging is terrible.

‘Get the vaccine but stay locked up’ is not going to get people to sign up. I can understand the hesitancy. Luckily, tens of millions are getting shots and ignoring the indirectly idiotic advice experts have doled out. They’re all bureaucrats and ALL bureaucrats have agendas, Fauci being the biggest of all. Almost every protocol they’ve come up with is either nonsensical or enforced and applied in ways that make no sense. The NCAA basketball tournament being a prime example. Players must wear masks and be socially distanced on the bench…but not while they’re playing on the court? This is a virus with a. 90+ percent survivability rate. Is it contagious? Sure—it’s why based on the data that Dr. Makary thinks that up to two-thirds of the US population might have already had the infection. Natural immunity is something that is never applied in these scenarios which is malpractice. The reinfection rate for those who already had COVID is also immensely low. The truth is we’re probably very close to herd immunity, but government doctors lie. And with the CDC being exposed for colluding with teachers’ unions to keep schools closed—do you still trust the experts? They’re political operatives that are no better than the ones who are on panels of guest host on networks like CNN or MSNBC.

[PTBobW]

Hey dummy.
I know that you didn’t read the document.

It is NOT the results of a study. It is a MANUAL discussing how they intended to run a study, and how to report any results that are found.

Here is is, if you can find someone to read it to you, and explain it to you.
http://82.221.129.208/pfizervax.pdf

You are really an ignorant Dolt, if you think that “THEY HAVE RELEASED THE GENOCIDE”

[digger48]

Were we supposed to agree with 100% of everything he did?

[scripter]

Just two weeks quarantine is all that’s needed — to slow the spread.

I'm not sure but I think I've heard that before. </sarcasm>

What boggles my mind even more are the number of freepers who bought it all.

[rarestia]

I love being called an anti-vaxxer. It feeds me. The absolute absurdity just tickles me. And I especially love that alleged conservatives are into using it as a pejorative as if it’s going to make us change our minds.

The vaccine is not approved. It’s an EUA. If you’re running to the lines to get it, you’re voluntarily acting as a research specimen. Good luck with that.

[Captain Peter Blood]

You are wrong, there is no immunity, only a promise of milder symptoms. There is no real conferred benefit. You can still get and transmit it.

In addition the Spike Protein introduced by the vaccine can cause increased risk of clotting, strokes, and heart attacks.

It is in reality unlicensed Gene Therapy, that is admitted to in Pfizer’s and Modernas SEC filings.

[DoodleBob]

I posted this previously when case and fatalities were rising in the fall. We need to guard against autumnal hysteria and vernal cheering, because there is likely a SEASONAL DIMENSION to cases and fatalities, and not necessarily a "surge" or a "new strain of the virus" or the results of triple-masking, vaccines, or statist policies.

The majority of deaths in most countries can be attributed to causes that feature a distinct seasonal pattern. The figure depicts the relative monthly frequencies of nine selected causes of death in the United States for women and men combined for the years 1959–2014. The reported number of counts in parentheses in the title of each panel is the actual number of deaths.

Viruses gonna virus. Even non-viruses gonna non-virus. Anyone who promotes eradication as a policy goal is either a fool or a statist (or both). It's like the war on drugs...liberty is destroyed, lives are lost, and Leviathan grows.

A very likely reality, is that this bug will be with us forever - like influenza, it'll be a highly contagious but more fatal (case fatality rate of about 1.8% vs 0.2% for influenza) and seasonal annoyance. When faced with this reality, we should follow the policy prescriptions of a wise FReeper: Quarantine the sick. Protect the vulnerable. Free everyone else.

[nitzy]

How many variants of the other 7 coronaviruses are there?

[nitzy]

They have been working on “gain of function” and vaccines since the original attempt in 2003.

DJT didn’t have anything to do with the vaccines.

[qaz123]

Having a hard time understanding if you are for the vaccine or not.

And if you think anyone that doesn’t get the vaccine is a dumbass.

Are you saying that not getting the vaccine will breed new variants and spread the virus?

Are you aware that the traditional flu has, more or less, vanished from the planet?

Do you know that the PCR test doesn’t test for COVID-19, it tests for a VIRUS? And if there was a positive hit to a VIRUS, any VIRUS in your body, they attributed it to COVID-19? You can always look up some info about it and how the test was manipulated from the guy that actually invented the test.

Are you aware that prior to COVID-19, when all we had to worry about was the traditional flu, that a very small group of people, folks like Fauci, would meet once a year and take a wild ass GUESS as to which flu variant(of the 20 or so) would be prevalent in the coming flu season? And with that WILD ASS GUESS, they would determine which flu vaccine to give? Hence, in the years they GUESSED wrong, the flu would seem worse than in the years they GUESSED right.

Are you aware that there’s no way of knowing how many people actually died from COVID-19 because so many people put on the lists had other issues? Some were killed in motorcycle crashes. Some died due to chronic infections that got into their bloodstreams. Some died from heart attacks that had nothing to do with COVID-19. And some, as in the case of NY, no one will ever know how they died because no autopsies were allowed and the families were not allowed to bury the deceased family member.

[Captain Peter Blood]

You really don’t know what your talking about. In fact those vaccinated will be the new super spreaders with new mutations.

[Bonemaker]

[353FMG]

RATs and CCP will get together and design a virus that will have the most disastrous effects on the next presidential election.

[lightman]

+1

Worth repeating:

Quarantine the sick. Protect the vulnerable. Free everyone else.

[Obadiah]

Once again you have hit the bullseye.

[firebrand]

He had a lot to do with speeding the passage through regulations.

The regulations were what took up all the time. Red tape.

[qaz123]

Unfortunately for the President, he’s taking credit for something, he shouldn’t.

He should let CornPop and President Harris steal and have all the thunder related to the vaccines.

However, he didn’t create the vaccines. He created the environment that the drug companies could come up with something and get them to market to help calm things down. Nothing more. IE....he allowed them and the FDA to cut through years of red tape in an attempt to do something.

The media, Fauci, Birx, Gates and a host of others had a sizeable portion of this country thinking the world was going to end. The

The President took action and tried to quell so much of that anxiety and fear.

[CrimsonTidegirl]

More childish, imbecilic insults from a Branch Covidian Cultist Nazi.

How does it feel to be a brainwashed sheep?

Stay under your bed or the dreaded China Flu (with the 99.8% survival rate) may get you! 😂😂🥱🥱

[353FMG]

RATs and CCP will get together and design a virus that will have the most disastrous effects on the next presidential election.

[Captain Peter Blood]

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=242248

Read this

[firebrand]

Pure Chicom psyops.