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Oh, So Now Herd Immunity Cannot Be Obtained?
Townhall.com ^ | 3 May A.D. 2021 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 05/03/2021 3:55:46 PM PDT by lightman

There are no more experts. They know nothing. So, don’t listen to them. Okay, maybe that’s not actually fair—but the real experts are being ignored by the liberal media for a simple reason: they want the COVID panic to continue. They want more deaths to occur. They want a spike. They want to keep the nation locked down. It’s partially out of spite. Blue states are still under Nazi-esque lockdown rules—and their cases are still bad. Not like last year, but Michigan is seeing a massive spike, whereas Texas who nixed their mask mandate over five weeks ago and reopened fully has seen no spikes—none. Florida has also been a state that has managed its COVID crisis better than the media gave it credit for, painting Gov. Ron DeSantis as the grim reaper. It turns out the entire media establishment ate it on that one—no shock. The good news is that even though Democratic states cannot manage COVID, there is no fourth wave. A spike in one state—Michigan, does not make a wave no matter what the CDC says. Even Dr. Anthony Fauci has said he doesn’t think there’s going to be a fourth wave. And alas, here is the circus. The CDC saying there’s “impending doom,” which was voiced around spring break to Fauci saying, ‘nah, that ain’t happening.’ The messaging on COVID protocols has been a mess; the ones with vaccines has been even worse. An MIT study pretty much gutted or cast immense doubt on the effectiveness and purpose of air filtration systems, indoor capacity caps, and even mask wearing. Folks think they’re protected wearing a mask. Nope. It’s an airborne virus. If you’re inside with someone exposed, that mask isn’t doing much, whether it be six or sixty feet apart. It’s all a mess, and now we have this garbage about not reaching herd immunity (via NYT):

Early in the pandemic, when vaccines for the coronavirus were still just a glimmer on the horizon, the term “herd immunity” came to signify the endgame: the point when enough Americans would be protected from the virus so we could be rid of the pathogen and reclaim our lives.

Now, more than half of adults in the United States have been inoculated with at least one dose of a vaccine. But daily vaccination rates are slipping, and there is widespread consensus among scientists and public health experts that the herd immunity threshold is not attainable — at least not in the foreseeable future, and perhaps not ever.

Instead, they are coming to the conclusion that rather than making a long-promised exit, the virus will most likely become a manageable threat that will continue to circulate in the United States for years to come, still causing hospitalizations and deaths but in much smaller numbers.

How much smaller is uncertain and depends in part on how much of the nation, and the world, becomes vaccinated and how the coronavirus evolves. It is already clear, however, that the virus is changing too quickly, new variants are spreading too easily and vaccination is proceeding too slowly for herd immunity to be within reach anytime soon.

We discussed this before, including medical doctors. Do you see what’s missing? There is a glaring omission: natural immunity. The coverage on COVID has become so bad that liberal data crunchers, like Nate Silver, are coming off as conservative on social media, as he’s taken a hatchet to some of the narratives being peddled out here. He recently said there were “a lot of bad takes” about how Florida handled COVID. Dr. Marty Makary of Johns Hopkins also weighed in, saying the article omits herd immunity. Others also noted that the Times doesn’t seem to know the difference between herd immunity and eradication.

Look, the vaccine is a choice. I got it. A ton of my friends have as well, but we also know that the messaging is terrible.

‘Get the vaccine but stay locked up’ is not going to get people to sign up. I can understand the hesitancy. Luckily, tens of millions are getting shots and ignoring the indirectly idiotic advice experts have doled out. They’re all bureaucrats and ALL bureaucrats have agendas, Fauci being the biggest of all. Almost every protocol they’ve come up with is either nonsensical or enforced and applied in ways that make no sense. The NCAA basketball tournament being a prime example. Players must wear masks and be socially distanced on the bench…but not while they’re playing on the court? This is a virus with a. 90+ percent survivability rate. Is it contagious? Sure—it’s why based on the data that Dr. Makary thinks that up to two-thirds of the US population might have already had the infection. Natural immunity is something that is never applied in these scenarios which is malpractice. The reinfection rate for those who already had COVID is also immensely low. The truth is we’re probably very close to herd immunity, but government doctors lie. And with the CDC being exposed for colluding with teachers’ unions to keep schools closed—do you still trust the experts? They’re political operatives that are no better than the ones who are on panels of guest host on networks like CNN or MSNBC.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: covid1984; herdimmunity; scamdemic
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‘Get the vaccine but stay locked up’ is not going to get people to sign up.

And for the Anti-vaccers here: It was our beloved DJT who pushed Operation Warp Speed. This is the Trump Vaccine that you are dissing!

1 posted on 05/03/2021 3:55:46 PM PDT by lightman
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To: lightman

DO NOT GET THIS VACCINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

STAY AWAY FROM THE VAXXED, IT IS OFFICIAL, FROM PFIZER’S OWN DOCUMENTS

THE ELITE HAVE ALREADY FFED OFF TO THEIR HIDEOUTS, THEY HAVE RELEASED THE GENOCIDE

READ IT AND WEEP, WE ARE EFFED. PFIZER’S OWN DOCUMENTS STATE BOTH INHALATION AND SKIN CONTACT WILL TRANSMIT WHATEVER IS IN THE VAX FROM THE VACCINATED TO THE UNVACCINATED

https://tapnewswire.com/2021/04/stay-away-from-the-vaxxed-it-is-official-from-pfizers-own-documents/


2 posted on 05/03/2021 3:58:07 PM PDT by afchief
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To: lightman

As soon as we get Flu Herd Immunity, I guarantee we’ll also then have Covid Herd Immunity.


3 posted on 05/03/2021 3:58:34 PM PDT by C210N (You can trust government or you can understand history. But you CANNOT do both.)
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If members of the retarded dumbass community would get vaxxed then we could achieve herd immunity.

Instead, the retarded dumbass community will be a breading ground for new variants and spread.


4 posted on 05/03/2021 3:59:19 PM PDT by Reaganez
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To: lightman

No need for herd immunity.

Just two weeks quarantine is all that’s needed — to slow the spread.


5 posted on 05/03/2021 4:00:37 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: afchief

Thanks for posting your stupid comments in all caps.

It makes it so much easier to see the posts from nut jobs when they are in an alternate format.


6 posted on 05/03/2021 4:01:15 PM PDT by PTBobW
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To: lightman

it’s run its course....just like any other flu. we got scammed.


7 posted on 05/03/2021 4:01:30 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: lightman

This is the Trump Vaccine that you are dissing!
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And because Trump started this we should all be little lemmings and assume it’s safe? You people weapons-grade idiots.


8 posted on 05/03/2021 4:02:22 PM PDT by Joshua (Keep paying attention to the shiny orb!)
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To: C210N

The covid “vaccine” will be as effective as the flu “vaccine”.


9 posted on 05/03/2021 4:03:00 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Reaganez

If members of the retarded dumbass community would get vaxxed then we could achieve herd immunity.
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The shots don’t give you immunity. Read the FDA and CDC websites, moron


10 posted on 05/03/2021 4:03:41 PM PDT by Joshua (Keep paying attention to the shiny orb!)
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To: Reaganez

You’re an idiot. It’s not a vaccine and covid will mutate and circle the globe forever, same as the flu.


11 posted on 05/03/2021 4:04:12 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: lightman
It was our beloved DJT who pushed Operation Warp Speed. This is the Trump Vaccine that you are dissing!

President Trump was great, but hardly infallible. Reagan made mistakes (SCOTUS O'Connor, Lebanon, listening to Nancy). Trump was not great in getting rid of Obama holdovers and restocking with reliable professionals.

I don't like the use of fetal cells in medical development (including testing), but I know that President Trump made decisions based on a judgment rooted in love of country, and I will not hold that against him.
12 posted on 05/03/2021 4:04:14 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: lightman

Because some of us don’t want to join the herd and be herded.


13 posted on 05/03/2021 4:04:43 PM PDT by Pollard
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To: Reaganez

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3956021/posts?page=13#13


14 posted on 05/03/2021 4:06:36 PM PDT by Pollard
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To: lightman

What they’re saying, is people have developed immunity to their propaganda.


15 posted on 05/03/2021 4:07:20 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: lightman

i’m not an anti-vaxxer...

i’m a nonbeliever...

it may have been djt that pushed the development of the vaccine but it was the biden administration that opened the border, invited, and continues to distribute thousands of “disease carrying invaders” across our country during a so called “global pandemic” that proved that this so called “deadly virus” is a scam...


16 posted on 05/03/2021 4:09:29 PM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value as well as making people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: Joshua

“The shots don’t give you immunity. Read the FDA and CDC websites, moron”
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The mRNA vaccines give 90% or more of the vaccinated IMMUNITY. Almost all the remaining 10% can still be infected if heavily exposed but the vaccine protects almost all of them from severe (I.e., hospitalization/death) disease.

I’ll assume you are innocently not knowledgeable about this FACT.


17 posted on 05/03/2021 4:11:44 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: lightman

COVID Panic will continue, in earnest, through election day 2022 and, if needed, 2024. I say “if needed” because if the Dems and the Left are as successful as they want to be next year, they won’t need COVID in the years to follow.

There is no other way to attempt to justify ‘mail in voting’ other than to try and spread fear into the minds of the populace and to set the table for more fraudulent elections. In addition to the machines and willing members of courts and state legislatures in 5 states, it is how the election was stolen and how those same tactics will be used next year.


18 posted on 05/03/2021 4:13:34 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: Reaganez

Good God man! Go get a freaking snickers. It’ll help you feel better as you fall off the cliff


19 posted on 05/03/2021 4:13:45 PM PDT by Maskot (Put every dem/lib in prison........like yesterday!!! )
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To: lightman

People are living longer in increasingly poor condition. That was noted even before a novel virus came along. But that made them particularly susceptible to any new load — and so that trend could not be sustained indefinitely. The obvious indicators were increasing obesity and diabetes — of which 90% of those who died with Covid, had some comorbidities of it. Those conditions tend to exacerbate with age — as the unhealthy get unhealthier.

However, there is a possibility that people can also get better with age — as a few are manifesting now — largely by doing the opposite of what everybody is advised to do — that is making them obese and diabetic. That’s really what we have to solve for — and not continue to lower the health bar so that even the slightest additional load, finishes one off. Those are the people largely dying — and not that they are doing so randomly, across all the age groups and health conditions. The weakest, or those in poorest health, are much more likely to succumb.

But even if one is the healthiest person around, there is no guarantee that one will live forever — as the new shysters would like us to believe — especially if they have enough money to be able to afford to live forever. No, there is still a natural limit to all life — and no amount of money will buy that immortality. The only thing that makes a difference, is taking care of one’s own health and well-being the best one can, all their lives — and if they go, it is not because they let themselves go.


20 posted on 05/03/2021 4:13:50 PM PDT by MikeHu
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