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NC Lawmakers Opt to Keep Century-Old Law Against Adultery
The News & Observer ^ | APRIL 28, 2021 | LUCILLE SHERMAN

Posted on 05/02/2021 3:44:18 PM PDT by nickcarraway

North Carolinians can still sue a person who has an affair with their spouse, after a handful of lawmakers killed a bill that would have repealed a state law at least a century old.

In a hearing Wednesday morning, members of a House judiciary committee split in a 4-4 vote on whether to advance House Bill 485 and eliminate the state’s “criminal conversations” law. The tie vote kept the bill from moving forward.

This isn’t the first time lawmakers have attempted to remove North Carolina from a list of just six states where husbands or wives can sue a third party for having an affair with their spouse. England abolished the centuries-old law, which originated when men still considered women as property, in the 1850s.

Family, friends and neighbors view body of man killed by deputies in Elizabeth City The law is harsh, cruel and has been not been used as intended, said Rep. Billy Richardson, a Democrat from Fayetteville, in the committee hearing Wednesday.

“That’s extortion,” he said.

Democrats sponsored the legislation, signaling it likely wouldn’t have passed the Republican-majority General Assembly even if it had advanced further. At least one Republican, Rep. Jon Hardister, a Republican from Whitsett, vocally supported the bill and voted in favor of it Wednesday, however.

“I want to preserve marriages as much as the next person, but it is between two spouses,” Hardister said in the hearing.

Former state Sen. Rick Gunn, a Republican from Burlington, was sued in his final months in office, accused by his legislative assistant’s husband of having an affair with her and destroying their marriage.

The lawsuit, filed in August, said Gunn “alienated the affection” of his assistant, Karen Johns, from her husband, Arthur Johns.

In March, both Gunn and Arthur Johns’ attorney said the lawsuit was expected to be settled for an undisclosed sum. This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.

Several people spoke against the bill in the committee Wednesday, saying if it were signed into law, North Carolina would be “legalizing adultery.”

“Marriages are worth protecting,” said Jere Royall of the North Carolina Family Policy Council.

The state passed a slight change to the law in 2009, when the state legislature was still under Democratic control. The change narrowed when someone can take action against their spouse and another person for adultery.

Still, supporters of the bill said it’s time to totally abolish the law in North Carolina.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina; US: North Dakota
KEYWORDS: adultery; civil; dinosaurs; northcarolina
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This pertains to civil law, not criminal law.
1 posted on 05/02/2021 3:44:18 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

I’d like to see statistics. I’m guessing more women availed themselves of this law, then men.


2 posted on 05/02/2021 3:44:48 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Democrats hardest hit.


3 posted on 05/02/2021 3:47:50 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: nickcarraway

Adultery should remain illegal, too bad other states have dropped this, if they had it to begin with.


4 posted on 05/02/2021 3:49:12 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Buy American, Hire American! End All Worker Visa Programs. Replace Visa Workers w/ American Wo)
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To: nickcarraway

It is criminal as well. See N.C.G.S. § 14-184.


5 posted on 05/02/2021 3:50:26 PM PDT by TexasGurl24
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To: TexasGurl24

How often, if ever, are people prosecuted?


6 posted on 05/02/2021 3:50:56 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Lawsuits for alienation of affections are fairly common in NC.

https://nclawyersweekly.com/2021/04/14/district-attorney-sued-in-heart-balm-lawsuit/

https://www.wcnc.com/article/news/local/as-seen-on-tv/man-sues-man-he-says-stole-his-wife/275-4cf11143-cec0-4ba7-8c60-decbd4d96219

https://www.fayobserver.com/news/20190826/jilted-wife-wins-32m-judgment-against-ex-husband-new-girlfriend

https://www.fayobserver.com/news/20190826/jilted-wife-wins-32m-judgment-against-ex-husband-new-girlfriend

As for criminal prosecutions? They are rare. It is only a Class 2 Misdemeanor and the admissions or confessions of one party can’t be used as evidence against the other. So absent catching them in the act, it is hard to prosecute.


7 posted on 05/02/2021 3:56:53 PM PDT by TexasGurl24
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To: nickcarraway

Probably.

But what is wrong with ‘centuries old laws’ ?


8 posted on 05/02/2021 4:03:12 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Reno89519

Vood luck trying to prove it or get anyone to care these days.


9 posted on 05/02/2021 4:05:01 PM PDT by Ikeon (my being offended don't mean squat in the real world of sane individuals. )
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To: Pikachu_Dad

They were written by Whitey...


10 posted on 05/02/2021 4:06:07 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: TexasGurl24

In maryland the fine for adultery is still $10.00. and good luck finding a lawyer who wants to prosecute for $10.00.


11 posted on 05/02/2021 4:06:48 PM PDT by Ikeon (my being offended don't mean squat in the real world of sane individuals. )
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To: nickcarraway

They should study to find out what adultery was, first, then make a law based on that.


12 posted on 05/02/2021 4:07:58 PM PDT by familyop (Only here for the tales from the rubber room.)
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“ but it is between two spouses,”?

I’m guessing the waffle he is eating there is very large....

So much for supporting actual marriage.


13 posted on 05/02/2021 4:14:03 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: grey_whiskers

Really? Please. I can assure you this is a bipartisan issue.


14 posted on 05/02/2021 4:20:03 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: nickcarraway

They are just making that hotel rendezvous even hotter...


15 posted on 05/02/2021 4:41:14 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. .... )
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To: Reno89519

Funny what happens when the state encourages obedience to (one at least) the Ten Commandments.


16 posted on 05/02/2021 4:52:23 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: nickcarraway

I’d let them sue the other person AND the cheating spouse.

And no the cheating spouse would have to sell off assets of theirs. Everyone has stuff that is just theirs. Purses, shoes, boots, jewelry, collections.


17 posted on 05/02/2021 5:17:36 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: nickcarraway

I recall one or two “Alienation of Affection” lawsuits hitting the news here in NC over the past decades.


18 posted on 05/02/2021 5:27:24 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: nickcarraway
I’d like to see statistics. I’m guessing more women availed themselves of this law, then men.

I'm guessing that more women than men assume the health risks, job compromises and personal inconveniences of pregnancy and childcare.

19 posted on 05/02/2021 8:00:25 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("One steps out with actresses, one doesn't marry them."—Philip, Duke of Edinburgh)
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“I want to preserve marriages as much as the next person, but it is between two spouses,” Hardister said in the hearing.


Ummmm.


20 posted on 05/02/2021 8:07:46 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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