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Turkey President Erdogan – Claims All US Nukes On Incirlik Base Belongs To Turkey
Investment Watch ^ | 29 April 2021 | IWB

Posted on 04/30/2021 7:51:08 AM PDT by CodeToad

A statement issued by the Turkish Ministry of Defense regarding the ownership of the Incirlik base and all the weapons systems at its disposal! The announcement came as a blow because US Pentagon officials themselves did not expect any Turkish moves or statements involving the Incirlik base.

And yet the announcement of the Turkish Ministry of Defense does not simply involve the Incirlik base but refers to the Turkey-US Defense Treaty that was first revealed by WarNews247 a few days ago. The Turkish media clearly state that this is Ankara’s response to the recognition of the Armenian Genocide.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: armenia; azerbaijan; erdogan; europeanunion; greece; incirlik; iran; iraq; israel; jamalkhashoggi; jihad; kurdistan; lebanon; nato; nuclear; ottomanempire; putinsbuttboys; receptayyiperdogan; russia; saudiarabia; syria; turkey; waronterror
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To: CodeToad

Lesson from Jimmy Carter: Weakness invites aggression

https://www.heritage.org/defense/commentary/lesson-jimmy-carter-weakness-invites-aggression


61 posted on 04/30/2021 9:19:44 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: McGruff

Heck, we saw weakness inviting aggression during the Vietnam war.


62 posted on 04/30/2021 9:20:37 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: SkyDancer
My understanding is the electronics and codes get nullified after a few months if not renewed; guess he could somehow get the nuclear stuff out.

My understanding is make a single mistake in disassembling them, and the explosives are set off, the fissile material fizzles, releases a huge flood of neutrons, and melts down to a blob of highly radioactive formerly fissile daughter elements.

They might get it right on the 5th or 20th try.

Or not...

63 posted on 04/30/2021 9:25:04 AM PDT by null and void (When you put bad people in charge expect bad things to happen, often in a spectacular and sudden way)
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To: CodeToad

No.

And my father-in-law held a Q clearance a long long time.

He is dead now. He did not talk shop.

We were very close. He was an electrical engineer, and was an intelligence officer in the 82 Airborne.

I took him for his last visit to the plant in 2009. I knew many of his top employees, he was division manager for about 15 years.


64 posted on 04/30/2021 9:26:36 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Dahoser
We wanted to give you the honor.

yeah, that's the ticket...

65 posted on 04/30/2021 9:28:06 AM PDT by null and void (When you put bad people in charge expect bad things to happen, often in a spectacular and sudden way)
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To: CodeToad

“There is no way the nukes in AF inventory are unserviceable.”

I doubt that is true.

There are many in US storage that are not not. It is not necessarily in AF Inventory.


66 posted on 04/30/2021 9:29:11 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Pollster1
The only correct response is to immediately but quietly remove all nukes from Turkey and keep them out - permanently.

I think that was done years ago. Think not know...

67 posted on 04/30/2021 9:30:40 AM PDT by null and void (When you put bad people in charge expect bad things to happen, often in a spectacular and sudden way)
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To: CodeToad

Maybe we can detonate them remotely?


68 posted on 04/30/2021 9:32:02 AM PDT by Afterguard (Deplorable me! )
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To: null and void

Correct, I have never been to Incirlik.

I know 2 pilots who have, and they hated their duty in Turkey.


69 posted on 04/30/2021 9:32:59 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Pollster1

Special plane and the NEST crews are absolutely needed - moving nukes is not like moving regular bombs - how would ordinary people know if the nukes are still stable? or leaking radiation and what to do about that. All personnel involved in any sort of nuke operations are specially trained.

Regardless of the bravado (... we are the USA. We do not need Turkey’s permission), we actually do need permission. It has been that way since we established bases there in the 50s - when I was there we had some specialized antennas but could not use them as the Turks had not been informed - we were told any attempt to mount them would result in Turkish artillery shelling and front line troops storming the base. That has not changed.

In fact, during the revolt a few years back their military ringed the air base because they were sure some people on it were aiding the rebels. We narrowly voided disaster then. This is a far more fragile situation.


70 posted on 04/30/2021 9:33:51 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

And yet we flew a live nuclear cruise missile across the USofA thinking it was a practice load.

Look it up.


71 posted on 04/30/2021 9:36:49 AM PDT by null and void (When you put bad people in charge expect bad things to happen, often in a spectacular and sudden way)
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To: null and void

Would be nice while they’re singing Alley Oak Bar.


72 posted on 04/30/2021 9:40:49 AM PDT by SkyDancer (To Most People The Sky's The Limit ~ To A Pilot, It is Home)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Watch Biden give them up.


73 posted on 04/30/2021 9:42:32 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus (The trouble with socialism is that you soon run out of other people's zoo animals to eat.)
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To: marktwain
I would be surprised if there were any nukes left at Incirlik. President Trump had many reasons to get them out of there.

Indeed - perhaps sand-filled bomb casings in those special storage lift bunkers.


74 posted on 04/30/2021 9:45:50 AM PDT by larrytown (I like pie.)
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To: CodeToad

The actual statement

https://www.arabnews.com/node/1851586/middle-east

says all FACILITIES belong to Turkey. He’s claiming the buildings and infrastructure, not US equipment.


75 posted on 04/30/2021 9:46:51 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: CodeToad
joek will fill his diaper at this confrontation, and let the Turks have their way.

Because the senile old fool is not really in charge.

And Erdogan knows it.

76 posted on 04/30/2021 9:47:30 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: CodeToad

There was an issue with ownership of Incirlik a few years ago and the fate of those nukes came up then.
I should think the Air Force spirited those eggs out of the basket a long time ago. One nuke here and there, added to the tons of cargo moved daily, and nobody would be the wiser until they were long gone.
I’m just terrified that the Air Force brass hats DIDN’T quietly evacuate those nukes after the first warning. Could they possibly be that stupid ...? (silly question, I know)


77 posted on 04/30/2021 9:48:08 AM PDT by DNME (... at that awkward stage. Too late to work within the system; too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: SunkenCiv

whey my Puddin Pop, Jill?


78 posted on 04/30/2021 9:48:10 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: CodeToad; All

I’ll wait for a real source before commenting on substance.

Because I’m nearly certain Turkey DID NOT unilaterally seize US nukes.


79 posted on 04/30/2021 9:50:44 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

This.


80 posted on 04/30/2021 9:52:01 AM PDT by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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