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US Capitol on lockdown after report of gunfire nearby
AP ^ | April 2nd | AP

Posted on 04/02/2021 10:28:41 AM PDT by RandFan

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To: rxsid; Alas Babylon!
If you had included the third sentence of your Wikipedia link instead of stopping with the first two, you would have also posted: This is an important distinction to keep our police, firefighters, and paramedics listed as non-combatants in times of war. Regardless of the drift in common language and the poorly thought-out governmental policies which are militarizing our police forces, the definition of civilian in international law is critical to maintaining their safety in times of war as well as preserving a stable democracy.
141 posted on 04/02/2021 4:16:04 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Candor7

The 3 Network channels, ABC, NBC, CBS all showed a picture of the Capitol murder suspect, and gave his name. The words “black” was not used, nor were the words Islam, or Muslim used.


142 posted on 04/02/2021 5:03:30 PM PDT by Texan4Life
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To: yukong

.it clearly is a non-white person. It looks like a young black male, but it very well could be a person of Middle-Eastern descent. Definitely not a white supremacist.
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“yukong, please report to the retraining facilities immediately”. Your eyesight appears to be impaired as the white-washed newly-released versions unclearly show./SARC

Wait for it. Faux Noes will receive demerit points for letting this leak out LIVE prior to editing.


143 posted on 04/02/2021 5:12:04 PM PDT by JCL3 (As Richard Feynman might have said, this is reality taking precedence over public relations.)
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To: Texan4Life

Fox did not display a picture of Green and did not mention his race at all.

They spent ALL day talking about the scene and the situation at the Capitol, but avoided any mention of the perps. race or his social media. If we had that info. so did they.


144 posted on 04/02/2021 5:23:53 PM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism:http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html) )
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To: Ronaldus Magnus; Alas Babylon!
If you had included the entire sentence to what you posted, you would have:

Under international humanitarian law, civilians are "persons who are not members of the armed forces" and are not "combatants if they [don't] carry arms openly and respect the laws and customs of war".[6][7]

That's clearly referencing a war environment or context.

What the original quote from the alleged eyewitness stated in post #2 was:

Appears that a car smashed into the barrier. Two people are on stretchers. Can’t see whether it’s an officer or civilian pic.twitter.com/Ud5WYGyKFu

That's not an inaccurate statement to make based on the context in which it was made.

Alas Babylon stated in post #24:

"Unless it’s a military officer, it’s a civilian. Police officers are civilians. They’re not military."

That reads to me like police are ALWAYS referred to as "civilians."

Well, in the case of a wartime battlefield being waged by uniformed militaries...yeah...they are civilians.

But in the context of a law enforcement procedure, or civil action, which is what this thread and post #2 was about...it's not necessarily correct that one would refer to both the civilian and the officer as "civilians" which is why I started that post #104 with:

"It's not quit settled science.

They are clearly not "military," but whether they are not considered "civilians" depends on who you ask as well as the context/environment (i.e. on the battlefield in a war or not, in a law enforcement situation, etc)."

It's clear that several dictionary sources exclude law enforcement officers from the definition of "civilian." The "government" also makes a clear distinction between an "officer" and a "civilian." Meaning...they are different.

National Sources of Law Enforcement Employment Data

Each year, state and local law enforcement agencies across the United States voluntarily report to the UCR Program the total number of sworn law enforcement officers and civilians employed by their agencies as of October 31. Law enforcement employees include sworn law enforcement officers and nonsworn (or civilian) personnel. Sworn employees carry a firearm and a badge, have full arrest powers, and are paid from government funds set aside specifically for sworn law enforcement staff. Full-time nonsworn staff include clerks, radio dispatchers, meter attendants, stenographers, jailers, correctional officers, and mechanics. Employees who do not perform primary law enforcement functions or officers who are not paid out of police funds are excluded, as are employees who primarily serve the civil justice system, provide courtroom security, or provide staffing at jail facilities. Law enforcement employees of federal agencies are also excluded.


https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/nsleed.pdf

So, back to what I stated in 104....it's all about context and distinguishing an "officer" and a "civilian" within the context of a non-wartime scenario.

145 posted on 04/02/2021 5:56:10 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: GOYAKLA
"Must I be the one to ask “ were the officers standing on wrong side of ‘Barrier”? From the photo it ;looks like the barrier is what stopped the car!"

Good question. Another scenario could be that the barrier was initially "down" and was only activated (by other LEO's) when the threat was identified, presumably seconds before he hit the two officers.

146 posted on 04/02/2021 6:04:04 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

Are you a cop?


147 posted on 04/02/2021 7:28:29 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! ("You, the American people, are my only special interest." --President Donald J. Trump)
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To: Candor7

For the Comments section mainly. CBS went into more depth than their peers ABC, NBC, and PBS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oivxKEzP00g


148 posted on 04/02/2021 11:11:09 PM PDT by Texan4Life
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To: Chode

Yeah I did, Well Done. Maybe some day I’ll figure it out !!!


149 posted on 04/03/2021 3:26:42 AM PDT by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !!!!)
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To: mabarker1

i dint have many frames to work with so i can’t slow it down like it should be, but it gets the point across... 8^)


150 posted on 04/03/2021 8:17:00 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there is no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. P144:1)
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To: monkeyshine

There’s a part of DC that’s full of gun fights, drug dealing and what-have-you. They only get upset because it was heard near the capitol. Those Proud Boys are still assaulting little old ladies, it seems./s


151 posted on 04/03/2021 12:10:25 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("The impossible happens all they time. You just have to believe." Will Robinson)
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To: ealgeone

“Anyone else noticing a ramp up of gun-related stories now that China Jo is discussing gun control?”

Yep, all the “journalists” are Googling: “shootings” and peddling results as news to suit their master’s objective.


152 posted on 04/03/2021 12:29:52 PM PDT by Patriot95
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To: Chode

Show me!!


153 posted on 04/04/2021 5:56:37 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
OK, you ask for it... 8^)


154 posted on 04/04/2021 8:30:14 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there is no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. P144:1)
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To: NeverTyranny

God bless him!


155 posted on 04/04/2021 4:56:38 PM PDT by Bill of Rights FIRST
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To: RandFan

Here is the latest Mike Lindell video documenting the 2020 election fraud. This Physicist reverse-engineered the election fraud algorithms employed by China.

https://lindelltv.com/mike-lindell-tv-releases-irrefutable-election-theft-proof/


156 posted on 04/05/2021 9:16:16 AM PDT by 2harddrive (Go to www.CodeIsFreeSpeech.com for 10 FREE 3D-printer gun blueprints!)
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To: Eleutheria5

....no biggie, all the major cities in the USA are under terrorist attack from BLM, why would DC be any different. Gunfire is the new normal


157 posted on 04/26/2021 11:48:02 PM PDT by KTM rider (Expatriated at home by no choice of my own)
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