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Disturbing Footage — 65 year-old Texas woman tackled and arrested for not wearing mask…
https://citizenfreepress.com ^ | Posted by Kane on March 15, 2021 3:51 am

Posted on 03/15/2021 6:54:38 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: PAR35

The bank can do what it pleases.

The cop overreacted.....................


41 posted on 03/15/2021 7:55:12 AM PDT by Red Badger ("We've always been at war with Climate Change, Winston."..............................)
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To: FormerFRLurker

Really? A private business can set their own rules?

What if that private business WANTED to allow smoking on their premises?
To my knowledge almost all localities restrict smoking in private businesses.


42 posted on 03/15/2021 7:57:18 AM PDT by Tahoe3002
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To: no-s

Wut?

Private business owners retain rights, including the right to refuse service based on rules they establish so long as those rules don’t violate federal or state law.

If a private business doesn’t want to serve you and instead wants you to leave and you don’t leave, you’re trespassing. If you trespass, you’re subject to arrest by the jurisdictional police authority.

That’s EXACTLY what happened here. The cop showed up, told her to leave and she didn’t. So, he arrested her EXACTLY like it should happen.

Protecting the private property rights of the business owner isn’t tyranny. Stop being so melodramatic.


43 posted on 03/15/2021 8:00:09 AM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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To: Tahoe3002

“A private business can set their own rules?”

This is an interesting video on that subject:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMatGVbJZW0&t=15s


44 posted on 03/15/2021 8:03:16 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Just because you're offended doesn't mean you're right.)
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To: glennaro
And because maskers know their gross overreaction to a falsely perceived threat is considered necessary and even appropriate by many others and that they will not be held accountable for the harm they have caused, masked people truly believe that in their fear-filled, ignorant state the rules of civil society no longer apply to them.

Well said! I would add to this, a slight revision to a great quote from Iron Mike Tyson (heavyweight boxing legend, for those too young to remember/know):

"Face masks made you all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it."

Waiting for the Karens to respond with, "but you not wearing a face mask endangers me! It violates MY rights! You don't have the right to infect me with a deadly disease!"

But Karens are too stupid to understand, much less recognize, the hypocrisy and logical inconsistency of what they say, so who cares?

45 posted on 03/15/2021 8:08:58 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: Red Badger

This could be landmark case. Sue the sh!t out of BOA and the cops! Put them both on the stand and point blank ask them if masks prevent COVID? If they say yes, show them a box of masks and read the disclaimer where it says it doesn’t. If they say it doesn’t, they just lost the case, and it was assault.


46 posted on 03/15/2021 8:11:43 AM PDT by The MAGA-Deplorian (Sarcasm. It's my only natural defense against stupidity)
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To: mikelets456

Sorry, but a bank is an exclusive premises to an account holder- they have a license that cannot be revoked simply because someone says so. They hold personal property in trust and cannot prohibit one from securing or removing their property. She will win in civil court against not only the police who should have enforced the termination of the mask ban against the bank, but also against the bank.

The private property argument goes only so far and cannot be used to deprive someone of license or property unless that act is enforceable by law.

Its not the same as “no pets” “no shirt no shoes no service”. Which have roots in public law.

Its more like “whites only” or “BLM only”.

Wait and see.


47 posted on 03/15/2021 8:14:07 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" )
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To: ScubaDiver
If a private business doesn’t want to serve you and instead wants you to leave and you don’t leave, you’re trespassing. If you trespass, you’re subject to arrest by the jurisdictional police authority.

Nope, it's not clearcut at all. It's a bank, for one thing. The bank and the account holder have a relationship which is not subject to the arbitrary whim of the bank, despite efforts to frame it so. Furthermore they are a public corporation, not a private retail establishment, so they can't hide behind private property as a perfect shield against any misfeasance...

Trying to reframe it as trespass in a private business is what the bank (and the police too) would like, but it doesn't make it right. They have her money (her private property, and she is a private party too!), they need to figure out a way to accommodate her that is not capricious and arbitrary...the mask rule in Texas just became arbitrary. The police know this.

48 posted on 03/15/2021 8:14:45 AM PDT by no-s (Soap box, ballot box, jury box, cartridge box...you know how it goes...)
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To: Varda

Bank of America is insane.
= = =

I had a check from a friend, written on his account at a local BofA.

I stepped up to the BofA counter to cash it. I did not have an account with them.

They wanted $7 to cash his check.

I just turned around and walked out.

(Cashed it at my bank later, no fee, no problem.)


49 posted on 03/15/2021 8:17:12 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (This is not /s. It is just as viable as any MSM 'information', maybe more so!)
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To: rockrr

I’ve stopped patronizing our local Ace Hardware for the very same reason. They’ve posted very aggressive Karens just inside the entrance demanding all who enter don a mask. And as a new homeowner, I was one of their best customers!


50 posted on 03/15/2021 8:18:46 AM PDT by Blurb2350 (posted from my 1500-watt blow dryer)
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To: Scrambler Bob

(Cashed it at my bank later, no fee, no problem.)


To be fair, you are a known risk at your bank with a history and they had some recourse if the check was fraud.

I agree with you in the frustration but there may be a legit reason. We all pay a price for others doing crime.


51 posted on 03/15/2021 8:20:33 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Red Badger

And Yahoo is calling HER a Karen for NOT wearing a mask. See how they (News media) are changing the narrative. I find this as disturbing as the arrest.


52 posted on 03/15/2021 8:27:56 AM PDT by BobinIL
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To: Scrambler Bob

Sounds like them. There’s a BoA close to where I live. There should be a warning label on the place.


53 posted on 03/15/2021 8:31:11 AM PDT by Varda
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To: Red Badger

I’m mean as a rattlesnake and tough as a titan’s toenail but even I know you don’t argue with armed men wearing a badge.

As for a shitoutfit like Bank of America don’t do business with their nasty asses - but do ask to use their restroom and if they say no call the Health Department on them.

If they say yes (health laws say public venues have to have accessable toilets) then pinch a big ole loaf but miss the bowl.

Then yowl about how filthy the restroom is for the benefit of the customers in the lobby as you leave.


54 posted on 03/15/2021 8:33:52 AM PDT by hank ernade (armchair macho bravado EverTrumper)
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To: Red Badger

This is what happens when you let illegal immigrants run the country.


55 posted on 03/15/2021 8:35:52 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: PeterPrinciple

Well, they were willing to cash his check for $7.

It was for over $500 as I recall. $7 wouldn’t have covered that.

Many years ago I had a BofA account. I quit when they started charging me to keep my money. Went to get my money out.

First clerk said, “But you have been with us for so long . . .”

Second clerk said, “Oh.”


56 posted on 03/15/2021 8:43:09 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (This is not /s. It is just as viable as any MSM 'information', maybe more so!)
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To: old curmudgeon
When you are asked to leave, regardless of it being from private or public property, you become a trespasser if you do not leave immediately. You don’t get a “time out” during which you can rant. You leave. In this state, and I suppose most are similar, the person in charge of the property may take reasonable force to remove you.. a dangerous move. So in this case the cops had the right and the duty to remove her. Now whether they were too rough is an entirely different question and not resolvable by anyone not present.

You're missing the larger point here. This wasn't a thing until last year. Prior to COVID you could wear practically anything you wanted in a bank or any other business and get service. When was the last time you saw anybody actually enforcing a dress code by calling the cops? And make no mistake...this is a DRESS CODE by the bank. It's not a law because the law says she doesn't have to wear a mask.

57 posted on 03/15/2021 8:44:01 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: ScubaDiver
Which will be completely useless. The cop was right. It’s a private business. They have the right to establish the rules of entry into their business. If you don’t want to wear shoes or a shirt or a mask, they can refuse entry. If you don’t leave, they can call the police who will then arrest you for criminal trespass. I think masks are idiotic. But, I also believe in the rights of private property owners. If you don’t want to wear a mask, then don’t enter the private business. If you don’t want to get arrested, then leave when the cop tells you to leave. It’s that simple. She wasn’t arrested for not wearing a mask. She was arrested for not leaving when instructed to leave. That’s what’s supposed to happen on private property.

It's a DRESS CODE then. When was the last time you saw the cops come out to a business to enforce a dress code? When was the last time a business called the police to enforce a dress code?

This is insane.

58 posted on 03/15/2021 8:45:26 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: realcleanguy
Didn’t Bank of American give up people who might have been in DC on the 6th through credit card charges without a warrant?

That's precisely why we are now in the process of closing the credit card accounts we've had with them for 26 years.

Goodbye, BOA!

59 posted on 03/15/2021 8:45:34 AM PDT by Gritty (Political opponents using the law as a weapon threaten the very foundation of our liberty-Pres Trump)
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To: Red Badger
Most of the establishments I go in Texas now are 'whatever' about the masks. A lot of people are still wearing them which boggles my mind. Two junk shops I went to had the karen sitting near the cash register reminding me that I was not wearing one. I asked when they were going to stop the mask and they both said, "Never."

I think some people have found their bully niche and they really like it.

60 posted on 03/15/2021 8:49:56 AM PDT by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys )
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