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Reparations for ancestors of slaves? The numbers don't add up. Discussions about reparations reared its ugly head again in Congress. It still doesn't make any sense
American Thinker ^ | 03/12/2021 | Anna L. Stark

Posted on 03/12/2021 7:30:46 AM PST by SeekAndFind

House Resolution 40, the Commission to Study and Develop Reparation Proposals for African-Americans Act, got underway again in mid-February.

It was originally introduced in Congress by John Conyers of Michigan in 1989, then again by Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee of Texas in 2019, followed by Sen. Cory Booker of New Jersey, who presented a companion bill last April. Of particular contention is the claim that white Americans are responsible for the "sin of slavery" and should be made to pay, in order to adequately address and resolve 400 years of racial injustice and inequality, while contending that 5% of all Americans currently residing in the United States are the ancestors white slave-owners in 1860.

Supporters argue that monetary reparations are necessary to correct economic disparity between black and white Americans, the disparity being the root cause of all systemic racism in the United States. Over the course of H.R. 40 discussions in Congress, advocates for reparations have dishonestly paired the enslavement of Africans in the United States, prior to the end of the Civil War in 1865, with the low number of black Americans who currently own homes, along with the disproportionate poverty level among black Americans.

Some have even suggested a correlation with the higher than normal transmission rates of the COVID-19 virus when comparing black Americans who contracted the virus to their white counterparts.

It is the widely held pro-reparations belief that a onetime monetary payment somewhere between $300,000 and $400,000, paid to 45 million black Americans, or an estimated $19-trillion "wealth transfer," will vanquish poverty among black Americans; erase past racial injustice; and, in their opinion, end systemic racism in perpetuity. Numerous proposals are vague on how $19 trillion would be raised for reparation payments.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: congress; reparations; slavery; slaves
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One idea imposes direct taxation on the wealthiest Americans, while other proposals rely upon instituting a onetime corporate tax on companies that profited from slavery in addition to identifying (and then taxing) the 21st-century ancestors of slave-owning families based on Census records from 1860.
1 posted on 03/12/2021 7:30:46 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Ancestors, or descendants?


2 posted on 03/12/2021 7:36:09 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Democrats: The perfect party for the helpless and stupid, and those who would rule over them.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Where will they get $19 trillion ? Print it or empty bank accounts ?


3 posted on 03/12/2021 7:36:27 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: SeekAndFind

In the war on drugs... don’t we target the sellers? Go after the descendants of the African slave sellers first...


4 posted on 03/12/2021 7:36:30 AM PST by bike800
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To: SeekAndFind

Ancestors of slaves.... that would be the African tribal parents? Is this the headline? For they are all long long dead.

Descendants... is that what the “writer” meant?

Just being black does not mean one is a descendant of slaves.

Not at all.


5 posted on 03/12/2021 7:36:52 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe someone can supply these assclowns with the map from this link:

http://blog.nationalgeographic.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/gitn_1027_Slave-Trade-2.png

Accordingly, 4.4% of the slaves came here to North America. So, how many of today’s ‘poc’ are actually descendent from that number? And why aren’t they demanding the reparations from the tribes that captured them and sold them?

Even more from Emory U at this link:

https://slavevoyages.org/


6 posted on 03/12/2021 7:36:59 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this?)
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To: SeekAndFind

This just doesn’t add up.

Where the heck will they get 19 trillion?

The gross domestic product is about 20 trillion.

The total value of all the companies on the New York Stock Exchange is said to be somewhere between 30 and 40 trillion. The values fluctuate.

How the heck is it possible to levy any sort of tax which would raise 19 trillion to parcel out as reparations?


7 posted on 03/12/2021 7:38:29 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: rktman

Yes— get the ones claiming they should get them— go to the “source” countries who supplied their supposed “ancestors”— the “emerging” african nations we are ALREADY subsidizing and have been for decades.

They won’t want to give up their cash to American nobodies— “their brothers”! There’s a reality check for these lazy idiots.


8 posted on 03/12/2021 7:39:14 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Also, It is estimated that only 5% of all white Americans in 2021 are direct descendants of the nearly 394,000 slave-owners.

Mathematically speaking, the 5% calculation still used today is based on Census numbers from 160 years ago.

According to published 1860 Census records, there were 33.4 million Americans, counted in 33 states to include 10 territories, with 8 million of the total U.S. population residing in 11 Southern states.

Subtracting the 394,000 Southern state slave-owners (slightly rounded up) from a total of 8 million white Southerners leaves a balance of 7,606,000 people in the combined 11 Southern states who never owned slaves.

Proportionally calculated (394,000 slave owners multiplied by 100 and then divided by the 7,606,000 people), this totals a little more than 5%.

Fast-forward to 2021. Using the same proportional calculation, supposedly there are 16,500,000 direct American descendants of Southern slave-owners (alive today) out of a total of 330 million Americans. The actual number is significantly lower — less than 1% — and aligns with the non-immigrant population Census count percentage increase of people born in the United States since 1860.

Plainly speaking, it’s statistically impossible for each and every one of the 394,000 slave-owners in 1860 to have propagated himself by 41%, increasing the number from 394,000 to over 16 million in 2021, over the course of 160 years.


9 posted on 03/12/2021 7:40:13 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I will do a reverse Sheriff Bart and say “my grandmother was black on my mother’s side.”


10 posted on 03/12/2021 7:42:51 AM PST by freedumb2003 (No matter what, resist and stop the agenda of blow bidet and hairass the whore)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Why are you bothering to talk about it they’re going to to do this no matter what


11 posted on 03/12/2021 7:44:02 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: SeekAndFind

I’d be willing to pay any ancestor of any slave I ever owned but they’d have to meet me in full solid person mode.


12 posted on 03/12/2021 7:44:41 AM PST by bgill (Which came first, Covid-19 or Gates and Fauci's mRNA-1273 Moderna vax?)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

>>How the heck is it possible to levy any sort of tax which would raise 19 trillion to parcel out as reparations?<<

Easy. Drop the dollar as a currency and go to tree leaves. Everyone will be wealthy beyond their dreams.


13 posted on 03/12/2021 7:44:59 AM PST by freedumb2003 (No matter what, resist and stop the agenda of blow bidet and hairass the whore)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ancestors?

Yes we must pay dead people in Africa..................Probably already are.................


14 posted on 03/12/2021 7:45:03 AM PST by Red Badger ("We've always been at war with Climate Change, Winston."..............................)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
-- Where the heck will they get 19 trillion? --

The constitution give Congress the power to make scrip out of thin air. Why it chooses to borrow money into existence is a complicated question, but regardless, there is no doubt that Congress can just wave a wand and conjure the cash, poof. No magic involved.

I don't think, off the top of my head, there is any constitutional impediment to given that currency to targeted persons anywhere in the world. Congress practices favoritism all the time, perfectly constitutional.

15 posted on 03/12/2021 7:45:27 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: SeekAndFind

How about no. You won the lottery by being here. Slave or not.


16 posted on 03/12/2021 7:45:46 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: SeekAndFind

Ancestors? Is this time travel? Did the author mean to say descendents?


17 posted on 03/12/2021 7:46:21 AM PST by thecodont
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To: butlerweave

By taxing gun owners?


18 posted on 03/12/2021 7:46:40 AM PST by RC one (When a bunch of commies start telling you that you don't need an AR15, you really need an AR15)
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To: John S Mosby

True. I know some immigrant Africans who came here with their parents as children in the 60’s....................


19 posted on 03/12/2021 7:47:00 AM PST by Red Badger ("We've always been at war with Climate Change, Winston."..............................)
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They can have the money if they leave and never return. I doubt their would be that many takers


20 posted on 03/12/2021 7:49:06 AM PST by escapefromboston (Free Assange )
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