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Flubros and Flubros! A Place to see the Butchers Bill!
Free Republic | Feb 24 2021 | Kozak

Posted on 02/24/2021 4:50:20 AM PST by Kozak

+2,404 DEAD

+71,054 NEW CASES

***514,996*** TOTAL DEAD



TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dumbasskojak; influenza; morons
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So the "it's just the Flu Bro" crowd see the cost of the "flu".
1 posted on 02/24/2021 4:50:20 AM PST by Kozak
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To: Kozak

Everything is Covid these days

Sneeze its Covid
Cough its Covid
Die of gang shoot out its Covid
Die in a car accident its Covid

So the numbers mean nothing other than Joe Biden killed 514,000 Americans

I guess that is progress right?


3 posted on 02/24/2021 4:52:29 AM PST by Trump.Deplorable
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To: Kozak

Half a million dead far exceeds the annual death due to flu. Annual deaths due to flu in the USA over the past 5 years is 61,000.

514,000 COVID-19 deaths is nearly 9 times the deaths due to flu

It’s not just the flu


4 posted on 02/24/2021 4:53:40 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Kozak

See the mighty Kozak spout BS numbers out his butt!


5 posted on 02/24/2021 4:53:45 AM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: Kozak

1/6th of 1% died of something. 99.823% didn’t. And this fantastic survival rate was BEFORE the vaccine.


6 posted on 02/24/2021 4:56:48 AM PST by sanjuanbob
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To: Cronos

Flu deaths in the United States average 36,000 per year: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

Doesn’t change your point, but I thought I’d point out that fewer die of flu than many believe.


7 posted on 02/24/2021 4:57:53 AM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: EEGator

These numbers are as valid and relevant as Elvis, Big Foot, or alien sightings for the past week.


8 posted on 02/24/2021 5:01:24 AM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: Kozak; haffast; impimp

Got tired of “open mic” night at the impimp?
Decided to take your routine on the road and hit the improv tour?
The only thing that makes us laugh are the stale “jokes” you keep posting.
Plus, you stole them to begin with.

Looking for that big HBO “Night at the Improv” video break, Kozak?

What was it you said yesterday?
You post the numbers to be seen, right.
You’re an “Attention-Fag” and you have just stepped up your game.
Will the moderator move the goal-posts for you?
Let’s see what happens.


9 posted on 02/24/2021 5:03:51 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Patriots, stop looking at the politicians as enemies. Look at the complicit Legacy Media.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

That is a lot lower than the number in my post. Wow, COVID-19 killed nearly 25 times more people than the flu!?!


10 posted on 02/24/2021 5:05:05 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Trump.Deplorable; Kozak

That is absolutely true

In fact, they have issued new “coding “ directive for covid that basically is any symptoms are now Covid-CCP primary when the primary cause would have nothing to do with Covid-CCP

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/covid19/coding-and-reporting.htm

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-2-New-ICD-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-2-New-ICD-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf


11 posted on 02/24/2021 5:06:36 AM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Kozak
It's a biological attack from communist China and since they got away with this one, they might attack again.

Please add me to your ping list.

12 posted on 02/24/2021 5:07:12 AM PST by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: Kozak

If We AlL JuSt FoLlOwEd ThE ScIeNcE AnD LoCkEd DoWn FoR TwO YeArS AnD WoRe FiFtEeN MaSkS ThEn We WoUlD Be SaFe.

It is “just the flu”

It’s always been “just the flu”

And it’s disingenuous to blame, now, TWO FLU SEASONS deaths as if it’s “one” flu season.

But hey - We’ve destroyed the USA if not the world so good for Science?

Oh and the AMA approved HCQ yesterday for COVID.

Yay SCIENCE.


13 posted on 02/24/2021 5:07:57 AM PST by Skywise
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

I have a question. (I do not know the answer)

If one gets the flu, and then develops pneumonia and dies, what is the cause of death?


14 posted on 02/24/2021 5:08:12 AM PST by EEGator
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Now, post the numbers for 2020 regarding the Spanish Flu.
How many positive cases of the Spanish flu were there in 2020?
How many deaths caused by, direct and indirect, the Spanish flu were there in 2020?


15 posted on 02/24/2021 5:08:32 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Patriots, stop looking at the politicians as enemies. Look at the complicit Legacy Media.)
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To: Cronos

Zactly

Where are the news stories, videos of excess deaths and so, so, so many families in agony over the loss of a loved one.

This scam is such BS


16 posted on 02/24/2021 5:09:42 AM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

‘but I thought I’d point out that fewer die of flu than many believe.’

ok, so let me ask you this; are you of the opinion that 515k people have died from a covid complication that would otherwise not have died within a relatively short period of time anyway...?

in other words, do you think 514k healthy, productive individuals have succumbed to covid...? because that is the only situation that would justify the crazed governmental reaction that we have seen over the past year...


17 posted on 02/24/2021 5:16:20 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
"Will the moderator move the goal-posts for you?"

Sure seems that way.

18 posted on 02/24/2021 5:17:55 AM PST by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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To: Cronos

You drank the kool-aid.

They are classifying all deaths as covid now.

There was even a statistical study released and then retracted by Johns Hopkins that showed the statistics of known-killers like cancer and heart disease declining in the face of this scam. These numbers are “known” in that they know how many deaths to expect based on population numbers for each of these illnesses\diseases on a yearly basis. As population increases these numbers correlate directly. The study spanned the previous 6 years and included 2020.

Had they been truthful with cause of death from the beginning they would have some sort of foundation for saying these numbers are valid. This is pretty much any source you go to, from your wife to your vet to media organizations- if you lie, if you break trust, then how can you ever be trusted again?


19 posted on 02/24/2021 5:19:51 AM PST by NicoDon
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To: EEGator
"If one gets the flu, and then develops pneumonia and dies, what is the cause of death?"

The US Standard Certificate of Death has 4 lines in Section 32 Part I for the cause of death. These lines are used for the major events in the chain of morbid events leading directly to death. The last line filled out is the underlying cause of death and the top line is the immediate cause of death.

The underlying cause of death is the disease or injury which initiates the chain of events leading directly to death. The immediate cause of death is the final condition or cause (i.e. the straw that broke the camel's back). Any other contributing factors, like pre-existing conditions, complicating survival are listed in Section 32 Part II.

For your example, a simplified chain of events could look like hypoxemia (immediate cause of death) due to pneumonia due to Influenza (underlying cause of death). In that case, Influenza is the underlying cause of death and this is counted in the statistics as a flu death (which we average about 36,000 of each year in the US). Listing Influenza as the UCoD requires that the attending physician be able to positively link the pneumonia to Influenza. That isn't always possible. Older folks sometimes develop pneumonia without a clear direct cause. In that case, you might see hypoxemia (immediate cause) due to pneumonia (underlying cause). If Influenza is detected, but not thought to have caused the pneumonia, it could be listed in Part II. For death statistics in that example, this would be a pneumonia death. There are 10s of thousands of pneumonia deaths each year (43,881 in 2019).

Hopefully that answers your question.

20 posted on 02/24/2021 5:22:42 AM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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