Posted on 02/23/2021 9:39:19 AM PST by delta7
Rather than specifically triggering the toxic effects of organisms such as anthrax, the Sunshine project warned that weapons based on a new medical technique called RNA interference could shut down vital genes. If the sequence of the target gene varies between two different populations the technique could be used to interrupt key body functions in one population and not the other. "If as little as 10% or 20% of a target population would be affected, this would wreak havoc among enemy soldiers on a battlefield or in an enemy society as a whole," the group said.
Others say the concerns are exaggerated. "Trying to find a weapon that affects quite a few of one ethnic group and none of another ethnic group is just not going to happen," says David Goldstein, who studies population genetics at University College London. ...
(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...
“Problem is if any relatives do it, you’re easily linked.”
4 years ago, a sibling and her daughter were pushing me to re join Ancestry.
I brought up the potential problems. Their answer was over 50 of my relatives had submitted their/our DNA.
My direct family in a discussion on this, told me to do it. They felt that their DNA and ours had been obtained by many methods in the past few years.
So I rejoined and submitted my DNA.
4 years later, I have hundreds/thousands/?? of DNA relatives identified back to 6th cousins.
Ask the Chinese.
This is quite terrifying: http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=241577
The West’s Obituary*
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Right now the Chinese are furiously working in their biolabs, as are a whole host of other nefarious nations, such as North Korea and likely Iran.
What are they working on?
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Threlkeld added, Williams also had been vaccinated for COVID about a month ago and that testing found the two types of antibodies in his system - one type of antibody that results from a natural COVID infection, and a second type of antibody from the vaccine. Threlkeld also said Williams tested negative for COVID-19 while in the hospital.
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From The Hunt For Red October:
YOU ARROGANT A$$ YOU KILLED US!
Coronaviruses are notorious for ADE reactions, where antibody presence potentiates the infection instead of protecting against it. Using that as a bioweapon is stupid because you will score “own goals” on your own people and there is no way to control that. As a result biological weapons generally are dumb; poison gas and such don’t have this risk since it does not propagate but any disease does.
The poster child for ADE in coronaviruses was an attempted vaccine for a feline coronavirus that often made cats very sick. The vaccine killed every one of them in the test when they were later exposed, wildly potentiating the infection.
Read that again folks: NOT ONE VACCINATED CAT SURVIVED A CHALLENGE WITH THE ACTUAL VIRUS.
Ordinary vaccines we have lots of experience with, such as measles, the flu shot, mumps and similar do not carry a risk beyond that of natural infection and cannot be weaponized because they produce the exact same antibody response as a natural infection. If you have had either the measles or the shot you will have antibodies but an antibody test will not tell you which since they’re not distinguishable.
I suspected from the start that due to the way these mRNA shots work — they are not actually a vaccine at all in that they do not “mimic” natural infection but rather cause your cells to produce the spike protein that the virus has and that elicits an immune response — that the antibodies produced by those jabs would be distinct and distinguishable from natural infection.
All of the so-called “experts” who worked to develop these and the firms involved knew d@mn well this was the case when they started developing them — and did it anyway.
Now we have hard, scientific confirmation of that and it’s very bad.
In fact it’s potentially nation-ending bad.
An adversary that develops a virus (e.g. another modified/mutated bat virus, for example) that selectively targets ADE in people with the specific antibodies from vaccination, which are distinct from natural infection, could easily kill every single person who was vaccinated and not harm or only make mildly sick those who either had Covid-19 naturally or who were uninfected and unvaccinated.
The nightmare scenario that has always driven bioweapons research is the push to discover some genetically distinct means of targeting a bioweapon such that it only kills your adversary and leaves everyone else alone. It’s even worse for your adversary if your side gets and transmits it but doesn’t get sick.
This has never been found despite diligent effort in the past; all attempts to find such a distinct vulnerability have failed, showing reactivity across the board and thus strongly suggesting that if that “thing” was completed and got out it would kill indiscriminately. That you cannot stop a virus from circulating (even isolated islands eventually got hit by the 1918 pandemic flu!) means that releasing a virus or bacteria that nobody on “your” side has been sensitized to yet doesn’t help because when (not if) the sensitizing agent gets into your population all your people die too.
This has now, for the first time in human history, been changed by the idiotic actions of our governments and pharmaceutical companies in that we are now tagging people for death by the literal millions and they will die if an adversary is able to develop a virus that targets those specific antibodies.
Of course, said adversary will not deploy the tagging via said shots in their population and thus their people will not be attacked and killed. Since it takes an actual jab of a needle to be sensitized absent intentional action there is no risk to the adversary’s population or troops.
I give the odds of an adversary (remember, we’re talking nations here with nearly unlimited resources and plenty of smart people) figuring out how to selectively target Covid-19 vaccination antibodies at 50% or better within the next five years.
If they succeed every single person who took one of the vaccines that produces a distinguishable antibody titer dies.
You can bet your last nickel they’re working on it right now.
What happens if they succeed and we forcibly vaccinated our children and anyone who wishes to have a “normal” life back? The entire procreation-capable stock of people in the United States will die and so will America.
That risk is wildly beyond the boundaries of sanity to have ever been accepted and it was deliberately concealed from the people — not just here, but throughout the Western World.
It’s clearly not enough for certain ghouls to have destroyed a full year of most school-age children’s education; now they propose to risk literally extinguishing all of their lives and thus the future generations they would be able to create down the road.
I pray I’m wrong.
Unfortunately I know that I’m not — there are plenty of people, both terrorists and evil nation-states that would love to unleash something like this on those they hate, they will work on this problem and if they discover a way to exploit it they will do so.
The use of any “vaccine” that does not produce an identical antibody to natural infection must be halted immediately and never done again. We cannot do anything for the people already stabbed but we can eliminate the incentive to develop such a weapon by not having any material percentage of the productive and young population able to be targeted.
The option to cancel the risk of self-destruction of our nation and many others will expire within weeks.
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~Easy
...And I'm not joking!
Hope you are okay short term and long term!
It seems it has been hit and miss in the past with supposed “vaccines” of all types. I think this current supposed “vaccine” is made to be all hits either immediately, soon, time delayed, and/or remotely activated at any time.
“What exactly do you think you can do with mRNA that you can’t do with a bullet?”
I’m not sure why you’re asking me this.
Your question is really a broad question and an answer is biological warfare, whether using weaponized natural pathogens or genetically engineered bio weapons, can kill more than guns from a distance without needing to be in proximity of the victims.
You might as well ask what do you think you can do with a bomb that you can’t do with bullets.
Well you're talking about biological warfare with a vaccine you have to store at very cold temperatures and then rapidly introduce directly into the bloodstream because every component degrades rapidly. So the "warfare" here would require the intended victims to sit down and let you put a needle in their arms. And if they're going to allow you to do that, you could accomplish the same goal with a syringe full of Drain-O. It'd be a lot cheaper.
If your subject is less willing to sit there and let you jab a syringe into their arm, you're better off with any of a thousand other ways to do what you're wanting to do. Spray them with anthrax. Mustard gas. Or just shoot them. But an mRNA injection? Even if you found a protein that you could actually get ribosomes to produce that was deadly, it has to be the most complicated and pointless way to kill someone ever developed.
Sure, for anyone who skipped high school biology class.
Why post fear porn based on false information? What purpose does that serve?
Nah, they're businesses. They want to make money. You don't make a lot of money when you kill your customers. You make money when you produce a product that everyone wants. The product everyone wants right now is a safe and effective vaccine. Moderna and Pfizer have that. Their shareholders are getting rich.
This is how capitalism works.
So you have the scientific proof that this possibility does not actually exist
as a result of this new “vaccine” tech?
Cold you share it with the rest of us that have been looking for it for weeks now, without success?
~Easy
The S protein produced by ribosomes is identical to the “natural” one because they’re produced by the same process from the same genetic code. The mRNA in the vaccine is nucleotide-for-nucleotide identical to the RNA of the virus that invades your cells. The ribosomes are certainly the same. The process of them churning out proteins is the same.
If you start with the same blueprints and you have the same materials and you have the same process, you get the same result. If the S protein is the same, the antibodies produced to neutralize it are the same.
The claims made in the linked article go against a century of all observable data on biology and chemistry. It’s basically the same as saying I have a spoon that makes time go backwards. No, because that’s ridiculous.
“Well you’re talking about biological warfare with a vaccine you have to store at very cold temperatures...”
I wasn’t per se.
But ok, no problem.
“But an mRNA injection? Even if you found a protein that you could actually get ribosomes to produce that was deadly, it has to be the most complicated and pointless way to kill someone ever developed.”
I don’t disagree, overall.
But clever ways can be imagined.
My comments are broader. Biowarfare generally would used aerosolized pathogens.
This is I believe very developed.
Oh absolutely. The nightmare scenario remains somebody taking an already bad pathogen (e.g. smallpox, measles, flu, etc.) and weaponizing it so it has all the tools that make it apocalyptically bad. You give it a long incubation period (e.g. weeks or months), give it effective asymptomatic spread (e.g. R0 >10), and give it the ability to create such havoc internally that secondary infections and death are all but inevitable (IFR >50%).
Now you've got something that spreads - undetected - like wildfire through the population and suddenly a month later, people just start dropping dead like crazy. Introduce it at a big international airport and watch the chaos ensue. COVID-19 demonstrated just how ill-prepared we are for a serious biological pathogen; be it man-made or all natural. COVID-19 doesn't spread as well as other pathogens and doesn't kill as well as other pathogens, but it brought the world to its knees and we had no effective means to stop the spread or keep society moving forward.
This isn't anything to do with mRNA vaccines though. This nightmare scenario has been well known for decades. What's scary is how easy and cheap it's becoming to do the kind of work necessary to custom-design these sorts of things. It used to be you had to be a superpower to wield this technology. Now you just have to be rich, or be a moderately large corporation.
So specifically, you are calling out this part as the lie?
“ Williams also had been vaccinated for COVID about a month ago and
that testing found the two types of antibodies in his system - one type of
antibody that results from a natural COVID infection, and a second type
of antibody from the vaccine.”
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You claim is that THAT never happened, never can happen, and there
never will be any bio-weapon way to differentiate between someone who
got these MRNA “Vaccines” and those who did not, or just got infected
instead?
And as long as we can never detect an MRNA “Vaccine” caused antibody
that is in any way distinct from what they would have if they actually got
infected, we’re OK? (In spite of any vector differences, Jab versus
respiratory infection, etc.)
So did China ban the use of both of these vaccines just to muddy the
waters, and/or just in case they can figure out a way?
~Easy
These are molecules. You can't tell whether a molecule of helium came from space or came a lab. There is no differentiation. You can't make them different. That's not how chemistry works.
"And as long as we can never detect an MRNA “Vaccine” caused antibody that is in any way distinct from what they would have if they actually got infected, we’re OK? (In spite of any vector differences, Jab versus respiratory infection, etc.)"
If the S protein is identical, and it is, then you can't tell the difference. The binding sites are identical. The antibodies must - due to the biological constraints of T-cell and B-cell activation within lymph nodes - be indistinguishable. So the whole point is moot. Where the virus is introduced (lungs vs arm) has zero to do with how the immune system responds. The response comes after dendritic cells take S proteins back to the lymph nodes. If those S proteins are identical, you get an identical process.
"So did China ban the use of both of these vaccines just to muddy the waters, and/or just in case they can figure out a way?
First, I don't see anything about a ban in China. Chinese state media has been perpetuating conspiracy theories about the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines likely because Chinese companies like Sinovac (which are always owned in part by high ranking members of the Chinese Community Party) have their own vaccines they're trying to push. And sure, Sinovac's vaccine only provides 50% effectiveness, but for a Chinese product that's pretty good.
Yep.
Target that 2nd antibody, unique to ONLY those who got the mRNA vaccines, with Covid 2021 that creates an ADE situation for the mRNA-vaccinated.
I’ll tell you now that I think big pharma knows more than they are telling us.
And they know far less than they ought to know about their brand new
“Vaccines” that are nothing like the traditional vaccines we’re used to.
If I was tied down and forced to choose between these emergency
approved, without the normal testing, novel technologies, or the 50%
effective, but traditional, Chinese vaccine? That’s an easy choice.
But since we’re all so needlessly concerned about these things,
perhaps you can put this to bed for us too?
We thought this went away, but perhaps not?
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33330870/
“To be fair, this study didn’t show that the RNA from the current vaccines is
being integrated into our DNA. However, they did show, quite convincingly,
that there exists a viable cellular pathway whereby snippets of SARS-CoV-
2 viral RNA could become integrated into our genomic DNA.“
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All the zero liability Vaccine companies tell us there is nothing to
worry about. Yet any casual glance at vaccine history puts lie to that.
War is upon us. So far it’s mostly an information war, but genocide
level bio-warfare in on the table too, if we make it possible for someone
to effect it safely, because of some mad rush to profit from a multi-trillion
dollar “Vaccine” manufacture, versioning, distribution, global contact
tracing infrastructure jobs and population control program.
Of course, if we don’t undo the stolen election, bio-weapon victims
will be the lucky ones in the long run.
(Longing for the good old days, when none of the conspiracy theories
ever became facts.)
~Easy
Hi.
In the fwiw department, some people are genetically more predisposed than others for certain diseases. One example is sickle cell anemia. There are many others (Sars covid 2 etc regarding the elderly and co morbidity).
It’s possible, look up Ft. Detrick MD.
5.56mm
USAMRIID.
I read “The Hot Zone” quite a few years ago, and it was quite the eye-opener and riveting.
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