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Trump Impeachment Lawyer: ‘Stolen’ Election Claims Won’t Be Brought Up During Trial
Epoch Times ^ | 2-3-21 | JACK PHILLIPS

Posted on 02/03/2021 1:38:09 PM PST by bimboeruption

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To: packagingguy

Communist takeover?


81 posted on 02/03/2021 2:40:10 PM PST by SisterK (Let the King of my heart Be the fire inside my veins)
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To: bimboeruption

“Just because somebody gave a speech and people got excited, it doesn’t mean it’s the speechmaker’s fault—it’s the people who got excited and did what they know is wrong,” Castor said in pushing back against Democrats, referring to Trump’s remarks to a crowd on Jan. 6.

Every rational person knows that to be true and so naturally, the democrats dont.


82 posted on 02/03/2021 2:40:30 PM PST by Jonny7797
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To: Responsibility2nd

I think they’re afraid of him whether he runs again or not.

They hate his popularity and influence and what sane historians of the future will write about him. They hate the influence he will continue to have in his future endeavors.

And they want to ‘deprogram’ US. They think that tarring our President will help them in that cause.


83 posted on 02/03/2021 2:41:52 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("Corn Pop was a bad dude. He ran a bunch of bad boys.")
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To: gimme1ibertee

I wish he would do that. He is now *MISTER Donskd Trump and he can send in his lawyers.

* will always be Mr. PRESIDENT to many of us.


84 posted on 02/03/2021 2:42:02 PM PST by madison10
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To: Honorary Serb; All

“Then present incontrovertible proof the election was stolen in later forums!”

What imaginary later forums are you dreaming of ?


85 posted on 02/03/2021 2:42:14 PM PST by A strike ( McConnell and Pence to Gitmo. Barr and Fauxi to Florence supermax. Roberts to Terre Haute.)
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To: lodi90

The one word I wouldn’t associate with Trump is weak but the guys people skills are terrible he trusts people who literally slither when they walk he didn’t have to sit down for 9 hours with Bob Woodward but he did, he didn’t have to fight with the press during the Covid briefings but he did, he didn’t have to give an interview to the most hostile press while the other guy hid but he did, he chose these paths he’s not week but he has blind spot for trying to get affection from people who hate him and ultimately it did him in


86 posted on 02/03/2021 2:42:28 PM PST by Lod881019
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To: bimboeruption

Biden & Harris are illegitimate.

This Congress is corrupted & should be dissolved.


87 posted on 02/03/2021 2:42:56 PM PST by Lopeover (MAGA For Ever! )
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To: lee martell

His attorneys are thinking just stick with it being unconstitutional and you’ll skate but just realize there’s enough senators in the GOP who hate you that it would give them a free pass to vote to convict you and then you can’t run again


88 posted on 02/03/2021 2:44:39 PM PST by Lod881019
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To: Salman

Because Fraud vitiates the Biden election win & many other election win results.


89 posted on 02/03/2021 2:45:06 PM PST by Lopeover (MAGA For Ever! )
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To: Freedom56v2

This is a sham trial. The odds of him being allowed to present, or argue, election fraud are zero.

I don’t think he should even give them the time of day.

As an aside, say he presents his arguments. Then what?
Senile Joe is POTUS.
What else would the endgame be here?


90 posted on 02/03/2021 2:45:15 PM PST by EEGator
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To: bimboeruption
Trump's really getting bad advice, IMHO.
Exactly right. they claim he fired up people to riot by claiming it was false. Then , he has a right to prove it isn't false. Simply placing doubt as to true or false is good enough, it crushes their baseless assertion that it was false . Now I know why they are going forward with the impeachment-they are terrified that something will come out which will show he won. They have to close and seal that door.
91 posted on 02/03/2021 2:45:23 PM PST by Aut Pax Aut Bellum (Lock and Load.)
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To: bimboeruption
The issue is that election fraud is in the article of impeachment. A first response would be to say that it is improper to include a charge in the article of impeachment and then deny the President the right to put up a defense against the charge.

From the article of impeachment:

2 ...In the months preceding the Joint Ses
3 sion, President Trump repeatedly issued false statements
4 asserting that the Presidential election results were the
5 product of widespread fraud and should not be accepted
6 by the American people or certified by State or Federal
7 officials. Shortly before the Joint Session commenced,
8 President Trump, addressed a crowd at the Ellipse in
9 Washington, DC. There, he reiterated false claims that
10 ‘‘we won this election, and we won it by a landslide’’.

The predicate for Trump's alleged crime is that he repeatedly made "false statements" that said that the election was fraudulently won and that's how he "incited" the crowd at the rally.

A natural defense would be that the crowd didn't need "incitement" on this issue because there was plenty of public information already out there that the people were well aware of. He could then submit as evidence the information that the people had access to.

I would say that he doesn't necessarily want to spend the time trying to prove that the election was fraudulently won, but only that reporting of the evidence of election fraud presented at hearings held by several state legislatures was widely available to people who attended the rally, and therefore the President did not incite the crowd "with false statements."

These were statements made under oath at several state legislature hearings, the President should argue.

-PJ

92 posted on 02/03/2021 2:45:26 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: GrandmaPatriot

It’s the GOP no one can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory like Mitt Romney and Mitch McConnell


93 posted on 02/03/2021 2:45:39 PM PST by Lod881019
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To: Salman

Because we the people know that he did.


94 posted on 02/03/2021 2:46:09 PM PST by Lopeover (MAGA For Ever! )
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To: Salman

Why? To set an example for anyone outside the corrupt system that thinks they might try to do the same as Trump. They must ruin Trump, his allies, friends, associates, family, and wealth. Examples must be made.


95 posted on 02/03/2021 2:47:14 PM PST by blackdog (It's a good day to go Ceaucescu. )
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To: Lod881019

You left out : ...he didn’t have to win the election but he did...


96 posted on 02/03/2021 2:47:39 PM PST by A strike ( McConnell and Pence to Gitmo. Barr and Fauxi to Florence supermax. Roberts to Terre Haute.)
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To: bimboeruption

The deal has been made.

No fraud investigation at the senate hearing and no conviction.


97 posted on 02/03/2021 2:49:46 PM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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To: bimboeruption
I think he needs to start his own media station, where he can show what he has. But right now, he needs to stay safe. He doesn't owe us, at least me, anything at this point, as this is just another sham political hack job.

If they try to nail him after the sham impeachment, when he does go forth with his proof of a stolen election, he can say he is doing nothing more than Hillary did when she railed on for 4 years how the election was stolen from her.

98 posted on 02/03/2021 2:50:23 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: bimboeruption

What a wasted opportunity. Why not just mail it in and piss on all of his voters.


99 posted on 02/03/2021 2:50:56 PM PST by bray (Pray for fake President Biden)
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To: lodi90

“For somebody who is supposedly a fighter Trump sure seems to find a reason to run from a fight...”

What kind of fight? You honestly believe the stolen election, as vast and complicated as it is, can be resolved in a kangaroo court, with McConnell, drooling at the idea of stabbing Trump in the back, in charge of the Republicans.

For a successful fight over the election, it has to be done in the states where it occurred, not before 100 prima donnas with more than half of them corrupt.


100 posted on 02/03/2021 2:51:13 PM PST by odawg
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