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Why Some Who Are Vaccinated Still Get Coronavirus
New York Times ^ | Jan. 31, 2021 | Lucy Thompkins

Posted on 01/31/2021 8:13:13 PM PST by nickcarraway

The scattered reports from around the country can play like a cruel irony: Someone tests positive for the coronavirus even though they have already received one or both doses of a Covid-19 vaccine.

Notable examples

It’s happened to at least three members of Congress recently:

Adriano Espaillat, Democrat of New York.

Stephen Lynch, Democrat of Massachusetts.

Lori Trahan, another Massachusetts Democrat.

But it’s been reported in people in other walks of life too, including Rick Pitino, a Hall of Fame basketball coach, and a nurse in California.

How can that happen?

Experts say cases like these are not surprising and do not indicate that there was something wrong with the vaccines or how they were administered. Here is why.

Vaccines don’t work instantly. It takes a few weeks for the body to build up immunity after receiving a dose. And the vaccines now in use in the U.S., from Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna, both require a second shot a few weeks after the first to reach full effectiveness.

Nor do they work retroactively. You can already be infected and not know it when you get the vaccine — even if you recently tested negative. That infection can continue to develop after you get the shot but before its protection fully takes hold, and then show up in a positive test result.

The vaccines prevent illness, but maybe not infection. Covid vaccines are being authorized based on how well they keep you from getting sick, needing hospitalization and dying. Scientists don’t know yet how effective the vaccines are at preventing the coronavirus from infecting you to begin with, or at keeping you from passing it on to others. (That’s why vaccinated people should keep wearing masks and maintaining social distance.)

Even the best vaccines aren’t perfect. The efficacy rates for Pfizer-BioNTech

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: covid19; vaccines
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1 posted on 01/31/2021 8:13:13 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

“Testing positive” ≠ getting sick, being severely symptomatic,being hospitalized, needing intubation, etc, etc.

Ever hear of false positives?


2 posted on 01/31/2021 8:16:12 PM PST by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: nickcarraway

We need two weeks to flatten the curve.
OK, that didn’t work. I guess life can never be normal again until we get a vaccine.
OK, we have a vaccine, but life won’t be normal until we wear masks for a year after we get vaccinated.
OK, the vaccine is iffy and kind of doesn’t work ... but don’t worry, Joe has a plan.
OK, Joe doesn’t have a plan and the tyranny will continue forever. Because that’s Joe’s plan.


3 posted on 01/31/2021 8:18:47 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (I'm sorry the Q thing didn't work out. We were wrong about that.)
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To: All

I think George Carlin summed it up nicely in one of his skits.


4 posted on 01/31/2021 8:19:04 PM PST by BipolarBob (It's all fun and games until Mrs. Bipolar catches me posting on Free Republic.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
We need two decades to flatten the curve...
5 posted on 01/31/2021 8:22:24 PM PST by DoughtyOne (The Republican Party is dead. Long live the Founders Party.)
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To: nickcarraway

How many times can you cry wolf and still be believed? The Slimes surpassed that benchmark with Walter Duranty. ‘NUFF SAID.


6 posted on 01/31/2021 8:24:02 PM PST by Fungi
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To: BipolarBob

Do tell?


7 posted on 01/31/2021 8:27:24 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Masks don't work as advertised.

Unmasking Masks January, 2021

Horowitz: Comprehensive analysis of 50 states shows greater spread with mask mandates 12/24/20

8 posted on 01/31/2021 8:30:41 PM PST by upchuck (The face mask is the American version of the burka. h/t CC&E)
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To: nickcarraway; SeekAndFind
Hat tip to SeekAndFind for this ...

THE LOGIC OF CORONAVIRUS VACCINATION.


THINK ABOUT IT!

Questions to Government we all should be asking....
If I get vaccinated:

1. Can I stop wearing the mask?
- No

2. Can they reopen restaurants etc. and everyone work normally?
- No

3. Will I be resistant to covid?
- Maybe, but we don’t know exactly, it probably won’t stop you getting it

4. At least I won’t be contagious to others anymore?
- No, you can still pass it on, possibly, nobody knows.

5. If we vaccinate all children, will school resume normally?
- Not nessarily.

6. If I am vaccinated, can I stop social distancing?
- No

7. If I am vaccinated, can I stop disinfecting my hands?
- No

8. If I vaccinate myself and my grandfather, can we hug each other?
- No

9. Will cinemas, theatres and stadiums be reopened thanks to vaccines?
- No

10. Will the vaccinated be able to gather?
- No

11. What is the real benefit of vaccination?
- So that the virus won’t kill you.

12. Are you sure it won’t kill me?
- There is no such thing as 100% certainty

13. If statistically the virus didn’t kill me anyway ... Why would I get vaccinated?”
- To protect others. That’s the goal.

14. How is vaccinating me going to protect others, if the vaccine is for personal protection. Do you know what are you talking about?
- There’s always uncertainty, never a guarantee.

15. So if I get vaccinated, the others are 100% sure I’m not infecting them?
- No


So the vaccine does not give immunity.

Does not eliminate the virus.

Does not prevent death.

Does not guarantee you won’t get it.

Does not prevent you from getting it.

Does not stop you passing it on.

Does not eliminate the need for travel bans.

Does not eliminate the need for business closures.

Does not eliminate the need for lockdowns.

Does not eliminate the need for masking.

So...what is it actually doing?????????????????????????????😂😂😂

9 posted on 01/31/2021 8:34:40 PM PST by TigersEye (Everyone knows)
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To: nickcarraway

Same as with any other vaccine in history.


10 posted on 01/31/2021 8:36:26 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat

Exactly.


11 posted on 01/31/2021 8:38:45 PM PST by dinodino ( )
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To: nickcarraway

The goal posts have been moved so many times that the end zone now looks more like a remake of Caddyshack with Fauci playing Bill Murry.


12 posted on 01/31/2021 8:40:05 PM PST by patriot torch (Ashlie Babbitt-say her name)
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To: TigersEye

What percentage of the population has been vaccinated at this point? Not even 10%. So those comments are hardly logical to make - at this point - as to the effective of a vaccine.


13 posted on 01/31/2021 8:42:18 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: nickcarraway

they gave him B12 instead


14 posted on 01/31/2021 8:42:35 PM PST by GreatRoad ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act' )
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To: TigersEye
What percentage of the population has been vaccinated at this point? Not even 10%. So those comments are hardly logical to make - at this point - as to the effectiveness of a vaccine.
15 posted on 01/31/2021 8:42:42 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat
That is not at all true. If you're vaccinated for smallpox, or polio, or Congenital Rubella Syndrome are all 100% effective. Vaccines for Diphtheria, H. influenzae, Measles and Rubella are 99% effective. Several others are 98% effective.

All of those and more effectively eliminate those diseases due to herd immunity. IOWs virtually no one has it so no one else gets it.

Vaccines Work!

16 posted on 01/31/2021 8:44:45 PM PST by TigersEye (Everyone knows)
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To: lightman

The test also determines if you have the virus in your snot - you can get that by just inhaling it! If you’re symptomless it means you probably do NOT have it - even though the test detected it.


17 posted on 01/31/2021 8:44:48 PM PST by Skywise
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To: Republican Wildcat
Dr Lee Merrit Interview BitChute video 30:00

Dr Simone Gold - The truth about the CV-19 Vaccine BitChute video 56:00

You should watch the first 30 minute video at least. The SARS-CoV-2 vaccine is an experimental vaccine by definition.

18 posted on 01/31/2021 8:46:59 PM PST by TigersEye (Everyone knows)
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To: nickcarraway

Could it be because it is not a vaccine?


19 posted on 01/31/2021 8:47:11 PM PST by PTBAA
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20 posted on 01/31/2021 8:55:34 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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