Posted on 01/31/2021 5:55:31 AM PST by Kaslin
Certain comorbidities make a Covid-19 patient more likely to die.
The concept that a heart disease patient, a diabetic, an obese person, etc., died "with" Covid-19 and not "from" Covid-19 is one of those harmful misinformations that emerged early on, when the real message there was that if you have a comorbidity, you need to be extra careful not to catch Covid-19.
I used an online calculator to calculate my risk of dying from Covid-19. The first calculator gave my risk as 0.4%. The link to that calculator does not work, but here is another online Covid-19 risk calculator. This one showed my risk of dying as 0.7%. Either way, my risk of dying if I catch Covid-19 is higher than the risk if I catch influenza. Which I won't, because I get the flu shot and I'm always careful to avoid catching disease.
It’s just that we kept caring about the people.
And the vast majority who died had co-morbities. Please address that situation.
There is no doubt as to the inevitability of that day of reckoning as the love of Liberty is inate as to American citizens -- more so than in any other country -- whether, in our year-long fearful state, we are aware of it or not.
I live in a rural area in Arkansas with lakes and rivers and love it.. The closet city is about 60 miles, and I like it that way!
And here's another thing. . .could you take your COVID hysteria to a relevant thread and bloviate there, please. My brief COVID reference was a throw-away line pertaining to a totally different discussion.
What you see is my effort to counteract the volumes of misinformation (let's be honest: outright lies) about Covid-19 that some people on the right have grabbed on to. I deal only in verifiable information.
From my point of view, the misinformation has been a Godsend to the left. It gave them the fuel they needed to spread memes on social media about how stupid Trump and his followers are to ignore science and let the pandemic spread. It gave Biden the opening he needed to portray himself as the expert who would listen to the scientific community and take the proper actions to stop the pandemic. And that hurt Trump so much that we are now watching our country slide into dictatorship.
The misinformation was so successful, in fact, that I suspect it was planted by leftist activists. It shouldn't have worked, but it did.
I didn’t say the chances of dying of the flu and Covid are the same. I do suggest that the policy of counting, for example, someone who died of a heart attack after testing positive as a “Covid death” makes comparisons between the official flu and Covid death totals largely meaningless.
That's the number being widely reported.
The data was deliberately and maliciously skewed by counting anyone who died WITH Covid-19 as having died OF Covid-19.
No one knows the actual Covid-19 toll.
"Never let a crisis go to waste"
And the corollary, if there isn't a crisis handy, manufacture one!
Certainly not in Minnecraponus. Lefties were cheering when the Twin Towers fell, gloating “it’s America’s fault”.
‘Those dead people were real people who actually existed.’
eh...? every single dead person ever was someone who existed at some point; are you attempting to make some point...?
Here's another proclivity that ex-Dems should watch for: thinking they're smarter than they really are.
Wait til the Federal Government starts to impact the states—and states rights.......................
That's COVID, not politics or crime.
People in the more affluent and secure suburbs think what's going on the cities won't affect them, so they are pretty complacent about things.
If you live in a suburb right outside an urban center or if you had to work hard to move from the city to the suburbs, you probably have a more realistic and pessimistic view about what's happening in the cities, but people who grew up in the suburbs often think that they are insulated from all that.
Most Americans have co-morbities unless your are a young kid under the age of 25.
After you reach for your gun, what do you tell me?”””
“Law” that no sane sonofabitch will even think about dismissing...
“A well regulated mi litia being necessary for............”
What is the “for”? the 2 nd is not about guns. It is about the people organizing for a purpose.
That is how I remember it too.
Link?
Liberal refugees, don’t vote for what you fled.
Exactly right. My daughter and family live in Tokyo; my brother and family in Rural Japan. Their lockdown was very soft-- encouragement and advice not mandatory draconian laws.
They continue to exercise extreme caution. If you are going to get a flight in, you need a negative covid test before boarding the flight, another one after landing and two or quarantine.
But they have about 40% of the U.S. population on an island nation the size of Montana and haven't even passed 10,000 covid deaths. Of course, they have a stricter way of counting in the the primary COD must be covid, not some peripheral factor. If they used the Fauci standard, it could be 10 times higher.
And the vast majority who died had co-morbities. Please address that situation.
Using the figures for a typical flu-season, and for circumstances with COVID, a typical April death numbers in NYC is essentially the average monthly rate of just over 4500 death (January leads at about 5400, with a September low about 4100). This past April, there were 17,400 deaths just from what was attributed to COVID.
The surge, with comorbidities, from a heavy flu outbreak is less than a thousand per month for the city.
Yes, the governments of NY and NYC were horrible in their response, and had policies which went beyond simply negating the precautions attempted for nursing homes, but the number who died outside of those considerations remains quite substantial and goes *well* beyond the misfeasance, and the mis-categorizations for cause of death.
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