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Sen. Rand Paul says Chief Justice Roberts won’t take Trump impeach trial
NY Post ^ | January 23, 2021 | 6:06pm | Mary Kay Linge

Posted on 01/23/2021 9:39:44 PM PST by conservative98

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To: euclid216

“Why doesn’t the full Supreme Court decide if post facto impeachment is Constitutional?”

Because nobody has standing?


121 posted on 01/24/2021 7:05:19 AM PST by alternatives? (If our borders are not secure, why fund an army?)
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To: pepsionice

Roberts is probably starting to realize he’s screwed. The mask is off, and everything is out the window.


122 posted on 01/24/2021 7:07:35 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: GaryCrow

“If Roberts has any balls he’ll tell them the whole process
is illegal and he’s not having anything to do with it.”

We don’t know what he said privately.


123 posted on 01/24/2021 7:08:57 AM PST by alternatives? (If our borders are not secure, why fund an army?)
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To: Political Junkie Too

“It’s in the self-interest of all the Justices to do this.”

I am not sure that applies to the three (or four).


124 posted on 01/24/2021 7:14:03 AM PST by alternatives? (If our borders are not secure, why fund an army?)
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To: protoconservative

“Wonder when biden going to wake up to the fact he is the one whos power is being taken.”

That train has left the station.


125 posted on 01/24/2021 7:16:31 AM PST by alternatives? (If our borders are not secure, why fund an army?)
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To: conservative98

It’s not an impeachment it’s a bill of attainder.


126 posted on 01/24/2021 7:17:42 AM PST by MercyFlush (Donald Trump is my President and Free Republic is my social media!)
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To: conservative98

Roberts SILENCED Paul when he tried to even mention Eric Ciaramella (the shot-across-the-bow for the coming tech censorship wave) and he still thinks Roberts will do the right thing NOW??


127 posted on 01/24/2021 7:19:55 AM PST by montag813 ("Fallen, fallen, is Babylon the Great")
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To: Political Junkie Too

LOL 😂


128 posted on 01/24/2021 7:44:16 AM PST by Laslo Fripp (The Sybil of Free Republic)
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To: Political Junkie Too

I enjoy reading all of your posts. Very insightful. But what about Senator Trout back in the 1700s? He was impeached. He was never tried, however. Also, I think there’s a difference between civil officer of the United States and office of the United States.


129 posted on 01/24/2021 7:54:31 AM PST by Laslo Fripp (The Sybil of Free Republic)
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To: conservative98

Fraudulent process.


130 posted on 01/24/2021 7:59:19 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: HamiltonJay

Agreed. It took only 7 comments before someone got it right.

If Roberts has any conscience at all, he best adhere to the Constitution and keep away. If he does show up, that coupled with the SC’s failure to take the Texas case would be double proof of SC corruption. And it might open the door to favorable consideration of the yet remaining voter fraud cases at the SC.


131 posted on 01/24/2021 8:05:38 AM PST by redfreedom (Member of Agent Orange Health Club Since 1969)
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To: Bookshelf

That doesn’t seem to deter our Congressional overlords. At best, such illegality is usually corrected long after the damage is done.


132 posted on 01/24/2021 8:20:24 AM PST by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: DoughtyOne

My problem with9 obamacare was that never in our history as a free nation was our gov allowed to force anyone to buy anything against their will simply for being alive. In an extreme example, a man was free to wander the states, making his own clothes or finding discarded clothes, ,finding free food in wildern9ess and dumps or whatever, just living completely free... inside the law of course... if he so chose to and Noone could force hi. To buy anything. His sovereignty meant freedom.

Then along comes obamacare, forcing him to buy healthcare, removing his sovereign right to live free if he so chose to do so. He was penalized simply for being alive, by being forced to buy healthy I sure ce, or be listed as a criminal if he chose not to. Never before was free man zmde a criminal for not buying something that was being forced on him.

Things like requiring person to buy a liscence to drive is different. Th a t is a privilege that one chooses to engage in, whereas a fine for not buying health Insurance is a vio.ation of a sovereign right to exist freely without penalties being imposed


133 posted on 01/24/2021 9:06:41 AM PST by Bob434
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To: Laslo Fripp
The Senate was unsure of their jurisdiction to try him, and it became moot when he was expelled.

I chalk it up to them being new at it and still trying to figure out how to put the Constitution into practice. I wouldn't refer to it for any precedent, since the trial was never held. The Senate dismissed for lack of jurisdiction.

Also, I think there’s a difference between civil officer of the United States and office of the United States.

Note that Article I Section 6 requires a Senator to resign in order to hold an Office of the United States, and vice versa. Therefore, they must be two different things. "Civil" Office is just a synonym; it just means that these offices are held by non-elected persons who are appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate. A Senator cannot simultaneously hold an office confirmed by Senators, and therefore cannot be impeached and tried by Senators.

-PJ

134 posted on 01/24/2021 9:09:35 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: Bob434
Yes.

At the time, I extended that absurdity to ask what would stop Congress from mandating that every American must watch Michael Moore movies or be penalized?

-PJ

135 posted on 01/24/2021 9:15:07 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: familyop

Was that what they used?

LOL


136 posted on 01/24/2021 9:24:00 AM PST by DoughtyOne (There is no next time Mitch. Aren't you proud now...)
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To: Eleutheria5

I hear ya.

This would not withstand a challenge in a normal sane court.

It likely couldn’t stop him from running again.


137 posted on 01/24/2021 9:26:35 AM PST by DoughtyOne (There is no next time Mitch. Aren't you proud now...)
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To: napscoordinator

He should open the procedure to impeach “President” Biden.


138 posted on 01/24/2021 9:32:33 AM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: Bob434
”Things like requiring person to buy a liscence to drive is different. “

I think you are using the wrong distinction. Taxes should only be used to collect revenue; not to coerce people’s behavior. Fees for licensing should be limited to the amount needed to accomplish the goals of the licensing.

The National Firearms Act, for example, required a two hundred dollar fee to own a short-barreled shotgun. This fee was to discourage ownership of an otherwise legal firearm. In a just world (by which I mean one which is in conformance to our Constitution), this “tax”would have been ruled unConstitutional eighty years ago.

139 posted on 01/24/2021 9:42:39 AM PST by William Tell
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To: Bob434

I agree with you, but I really bristle when someone tells me I have to have permission to drive.

If we’re talking about someone unfit to drive, why sure. Other
than that it’s a right to be able to travel for interaction with others
and or to conduct commerce.

Think freedom of association.

No authority should be recognized as being able to impede this.


140 posted on 01/24/2021 9:52:30 AM PST by DoughtyOne (There is no next time Mitch. Aren't you proud now...)
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