Posted on 01/17/2021 9:02:35 AM PST by Peter ODonnell
The only way to have gotten rid of parties, would have been to get money out of politics, good luck with all that.
The reason that the Left tries to control language is because they understand the power of it. Trump’s success was based totally on language. He said things that no politcian would dare to say. And for this, the ruling class tried to turn him into a pariah.
To save the US, we need more of this kind of language, which can persuade the masses. Let’s not be cry babies and moan about the fact that the ruling class still has so much power. Let’s be happy that we’ve drawn blood from them, and build on Trump’s war of language.
3rd party or not, we can destroy the GOPe if we use language as effectively as a sous chef cutting veggies with a high quality pearing knife.
The line of attack that needs to be taken is to call out the GOPe for all the ways that it has contributed to American decline. Trump focused strictly on the Uniparty theme, and how both parties are in bed with the Globalists and the CCP. This is how he pivoted to getting tough on immigration.
But we need people who can dig deeper and articulate all the other ways the GOPe has betrayed us. There needs to be another theme to go alongside the Uniparty Globalist theme that Trump pushed. We need to expose the GOPe’s deafening silence and inaction on several fronts.
For example, why do so many GOP politicians speak out about being pro life, yet they say nothing and do nothing about radical Left wing curriculum in our schools? Because being pro life is a good campaign theme to attract Conservative voters. But cracking down on Left wing brainwashing of our youth clashes with the Uniparty agrnda of dumbing down and corrupting future generations of voters.
Or how about the rise of populism in various countries. The Left and the media paint populist politicians as promoting xenophobia, simply for wanting to preserve national customs, culture, religion, and looking out for the best interests of ordinary citizens. Have we ever heard a word from any GOPe types coming to the defense of these populist leaders? They don’t join the Left in the smearing of these populists, but they don’t defend them either. Their silence on this issue is more proof that they are fine with this demonizing of the populist movement.
My point is, we can’t just focus on the “endless wars”, outsourcing of jobs, etc. Those are themes for winning general elections. To cause a revolution within the GOP, we have to fine tune our rhetoric for primary challenges. We have to paint the GOPe as the party that plays the role of “good cop” to Conservative voters, while the Democrats and the whole Leftist popular culture gut our traditions and our way of life.
Trump got people’s attention because he’s a celebrity. Now we need many, many dozens of ideological wonks who can expose and explain how thoroughly worthless and duplicitous the GOPe has been for so many decades. The good thing is that the Democrats and the media have already been attacking the GOP for just as long. Now it’s our turn to finish them off.
We don’t need guns for this revolution to happen. We need smart, articulate speakers who can build and launch lethal truth bombs, that are aimed squarely at the likes of the Bushes, Rove, Romney, McConnell, McCarthy, etc.
“Low energy Jeb” should be just the beginning of the skewering of the entire Bush family. That whole corrupt clan needs to be made completely toxic to ALL voters. Let’s drag Prescott, Poppy, and Dubya’s name through the mud. Let’s paint them, and all their allies as the Socialist Left’s long time silent partners, who never had Conservatives backs.
My hope is the seeds that Trump planted will eventually bear fruit, especially if this upcoming administration is as unpopular as I believe it will be.
2022? 2024? Does anybody seriously believe they will allow Trump and his family to live? He’s far too dangerous to their cause, in or out of the White House.
Canada has a Parliamentary system of government. The USA does not.
This makes a huge difference in how reformers must act - it massively amplifies the impact of one side "splitting the vote".
If memory serves me correct, President Lincoln would have never won the 1860 election if the Democrats didn't split their vote 62-38 between Douglas of the formal Democratic Party (state rights, including the right to enslave people), and Breckinridge of the Southern Democratic Party (eager proponents of slavery).
There also was a split on the Republican side, between Lincoln and Bell of the Constitutional Union Party (anti-secession, but let's ignore the whole slavery issue), but it wasn't as bad as on the Democrat side.
The GOP presidential candidate with the strongest support among Hispanics in my lifetime was George W. Bush. That right there is a huge problem with the scenario you laid out.
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1. Ideally, a new party called Great American Party - GAP. We need someone to stand #intheGAP.
2. HOWEVER, I agree with those who have already posted. Change won’t happen as long as our votes are meaningless via electronic manipulation.
3. As a minor show of personal protest, I also have changed my party affiliation from R to I.
4. I am known to be an eternal optimist - but for once, I am very pessimistic on this ever turning around.
Like many have stated, I do not have any faith in either party, nor the system. I erred in the past by sitting out the McCain and Romney elections.
If nothing changes (highly likely) I will likely write in for None of these A$$h0les.
It, like third party will make absolutely no difference, I will have done my civic duty by voting while letting me not vote to support any of the poor choices offered.
This will likely be for ALL positions on the ballot.
They are not going to allow the Trumps to rebuild their current empire.
They are going to do everything they can to annihilate the Trump family financially so nobody ever tries this again.
Trump’s only hope is to rebuild a new empire.
“Identify the RINOS who need to be primaried.”
They took care of that themselves on January 6 — self identified by certifying the election. ALL who did that must be gone ASAP.
“become precinct leaders, and show up at meetings, and work to elect candidates,”
That’s a really good idea. Simple. Do-able. It’s not a flashy idea, but if this election showed nothing else, it showed how much power “mere” precinct workers and counting center workers can be.
Little by little, and subtly, infiltrate every precinct and county election position. Start by volunteering at the polling places.
After watching Dennis Prager on American Thought Leaders and Alex Jones with Paul Joseph Watson, I don’t see much hope.
Also, watch James Lindsey on American Thought Leaders for a deep dive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGiRGPq6Axo
Alex Jones is a nut, but the biggest thing he said that I agree 100% with, is that Trump needs to open up a Bank. Basically, a safe financial institution for Patriots.
I’m afraid the left will increase their intimidation efforts to get Banks and payment processors to ban anyone that represents political opposition.
This Presidential/Political transition won’t be like any other.
They are too close to just coast and they know they are unpopular.
They have, maybe their best and only opportunity to go big and take complete control.
This new administration won’t be like Clinton’s or 0bama’s terms where we pretend to get along and compromised on policy in a public debate.
“””That’s a really good idea. Simple. Do-able. It’s not a flashy idea, but if this election showed nothing else, it showed how much power “mere” precinct workers and counting center workers can be.
Little by little, and subtly, infiltrate every precinct and county election position. Start by volunteering at the polling places”””
I fully agree.
Also, right now every FReeper needs to contact their state rep and senator and demand they clean up the lax voting rules in their individual states. Most state legislatures are now or soon will be in session and the time to make the legislators do something to fix lax voting rules is now.
Conservatism’s underpinnings seem too nebulous to me.
When the Ayatollas or the Chinese leadership can be called conservative then the term has lost all functional value and meaning.
Now I am no expert but my study indicates that Classical Liberalism is based on solid principles.
Free Speech, Civil Discourse, Individualism...and more as described in the following... all of which were the bedrock of America as founded
Here is an article listing and elucidating the Principles of Classical Liberalism...
https://www.rationalargumentator.com/index/blog/2014/07/principles-classical-liberalism/
Principle 1. The life of each individual is an absolute and universal moral value. No non-aggressive individual’s life, liberty, or property may be legitimately sacrificed for any goal.
Principle 2. Every individual owns his body, his mind, and the labor thereof, including the physical objects legitimately obtained through such labor.
Principle 3. Every individual has the right to pursue activities for the betterment of his life – including its material, intellectual, and emotional aspects – by using his own body and property, as well as the property of consenting others.
Principle 4. The rights of an individual to life, liberty, and property are inherent to that individual’s nature. They are not granted by other human beings, and they cannot be taken away by any entity.
Principle 5. The initiation of physical force, the threat of such force, or fraud against any individual is never permissible – irrespective of the position and character of the initiator. However, proportionate force may be used to retaliate and defend against aggression.
Principle 6. The sole fundamental purpose of government is to protect the rights of individuals by engaging in actions specifically delegated to the government by its constituents. Government is not the same as society, nor is the government entitled to sacrifice some non-aggressive individuals to advance the well-being of others.
Principle 7. Every individual has the absolute right to think and express any ideas. Thought and speech are never equivalent to force or violence and ought never to be restricted or to be subject to coercive penalties. Specifically, coercion and censorship on the basis of religious or political ideas are not acceptable under any circumstances.
Principle 8. Commerce, technology, and science are desirable, liberating forces that are capable of alleviating historic ills, improving the quality of human life, and morally elevating human beings. The complete freedom of trade, innovation, and thought should be preserved and supported for all human beings in the world.
Principle 9. Accidents of birth, geography, or ancestry do not define an individual and should not result in manmade restrictions of that individual’s rights or opportunities. Every individual should be judged purely on his or her personal qualities, including accomplishments, character, and knowledge.
Principle 10. There are no “natural” or desirable limits to human potential for good, and there is no substantive problem that is necessarily unsolvable by present or future human knowledge, effort, and technology. It is a moral imperative for humans to expand their mastery of the universe indefinitely and in such a manner as will reinforce the survival and flourishing of all non-aggressive individuals.
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A party is needed that in some form stands upon these bedrock Principles
One advantage may be that ‘liberals’ think that they are ‘liberals’ even though often their interpretation of Classical Liberalism is flawed and incomplete.
They have stolen the name of a noble Political and Social Philosophy and use it to hide and disguise their totalitarian bent.
But the ones that are attracted by the term liberal, and can be taught what Classical Liberalism actually is,
may become attracted to it and help espouse it to other ‘liberals’ giving birth to Classical Liberals.
There are many online resources that can deepen your understanding and appreciation of Classical Liberalism.
comments?
Oh, I know! Let’s call it the Reform Party!
[The GOP presidential candidate with the strongest support among Hispanics in my lifetime was George W. Bush. That right there is a huge problem with the scenario you laid out.]
Today, there’s another factor at work - clear policy differences. With the Dems supporting riots and economic shutdowns, in addition to ruining an indeterminate number of Hispanic business owners, while putting their employees on the street, Hispanics are starting to see why having Democrats in power is not a good thing.
* A crusade would have seemed a heaven-sent opportunity to slaughter the Moors in retaliation for their assault upon the West. In fact, most of the post-9/11 assaults on Muslims or suspected Muslims stateside were carried out by Hispanics. That Dubya used this opportunity to impose ridiculous ROE’s during the Afghan and Iraqi campaigns that got thousands of Americans killed unnecessarily probably soured many on this moron.
Alone among Christians stateside, Hispanics still take their religion seriously in the sense of wanting to slaughter the Muslim infidel for Christ the Redeemer. Fidei defensor might be the nominal reign style of British monarchs - it is the actual sentiment of many Hispanics. It’s not an accident that they are well-represented among the Proud Boys, for whom the defense of traditional Christianity is an integral element of their organization.
Republicans must be completely broken, and we have to spill some milk.
There is no other way.
You have to find the underground papers and search for conservative radio.
I like Billboards and Burma Shave signs in liberal counties - there’s only 400 some of those blue counties.
People have to drive and walk past billboards and signs.
Mock them. Antagonize them and hold your ground. First Amendment Signs can’t be banned by the teknocrats.
I will start off the first “comic-sign” I heard by some guy say on Howie Carr’s chump line:
BREAKING NEWS: Big Guy has just landed in Basement 1
Repeat Big Guy has just landed in Basement 1
Nothing the Left hates more than being mocked.
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