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Timing doesn't line up for Trump to have incited violence at the Capitol
American Thinker ^ | January 10, 2021 | Allan J. Favish

Posted on 01/10/2021 3:10:15 AM PST by AJFavish

Based on this information, it appears that the breakdown of the barricades began at least 12 minutes before Trump's speech ended, by people who were over a mile and a half away from Trump.  Although the loudspeaker system was massive, it is doubtful that the people bringing down the barricades could hear Trump from the loudspeaker system.  Extremely vivid videos of the prelude to and a breach of barricades and entry into the Capitol Building are here and here on a YouTube channel that identifies "independent photojournalist Jon Farina" as the videographer.  It does not appear that people in the crowd was listening to Trump's speech over their phones.  The phones are mostly seen when being used to take pictures and videos.  The videos show plenty of faces of people who should be arrested for defying the law.  But where is the evidence that they were incited to do it by Trump's speech?

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 20210106; arrests; blm; grimes; gun; impeach; incite; logangrimes; speech; timing; trump
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1 posted on 01/10/2021 3:10:15 AM PST by AJFavish
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The media will NEVER address this. And with the latest ramp up of censorship, allow this information to get to the public.


2 posted on 01/10/2021 3:22:17 AM PST by Fido969 (,i.)
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To: AJFavish

bttt


3 posted on 01/10/2021 3:22:56 AM PST by linMcHlp
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To: AJFavish
Doesn't matter. In 2 months, no one will remember the Capitol riot.

We just experienced a coup...an overthrow of our country.

Much bigger things are coming.

4 posted on 01/10/2021 3:25:52 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: AJFavish

Yeah, that was their flaw. Contrary to media lies, Trump did not call on the people to march on the Capitol. He said you will be going down there. That is because it was a preplanned event put on by the StopTheSteal movement. It was supposed to begin at 1 PM. However, Trump started his speech late and went on longer than anticipated. The Antifa plants at the Capitol didn’t know this and started the intrusion BEFORE Trump even mentioned anything about the Capitol protest.


5 posted on 01/10/2021 3:27:08 AM PST by TheCipher (To my mind Judas Iscariot was nothing but a low, mean, premature Congressman. - Mark Twain)
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To: RoosterRedux

Pelosi’s “impeachment trial” presents a great opportunity for Trump to present all the fraudulent voting documentation!!!!!!


6 posted on 01/10/2021 3:30:09 AM PST by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers)
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To: AJFavish

Some videos show police escorting people into the capital and some videos show people pushing down the barriers and fighting with police.

So cops changed their minds? Protestors found more friendly cops at a different door?


7 posted on 01/10/2021 3:30:26 AM PST by MNDude
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I might be incorrect in this, but I thought I heard that all the Congressmen left DC and won't return until the Inauguration.

Too late for an impeachment hearing.

8 posted on 01/10/2021 3:32:31 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

I heard a rumor that Congress is on vacation.


9 posted on 01/10/2021 3:34:18 AM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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8 Jan: Detroit Free Press: US Capitol riot: Father says son’s arrest isn’t what it seems, he was anti-Trump
by Darcie Moran
If Robert Grimes sounds angry or frustrated, it’s because he is — he’s trying to defend his son, Logan Grimes, and his family’s name following the younger Grimes’ arrest amid the U.S. Capitol riot Wednesday.
Logan Grimes, 25, of Grand Rapids was arrested Wednesday in the 1000 block of Vermont Avenue NW in Washington, D.C., and accused of carrying a pistol without a license, possession of a large capacity ammunition feeding device, and possession of unregistered ammunition, according to the Metropolitan Police Department website.

He was a little over 1.5 miles, as the crow flies, from the Capitol building and a few blocks away from the White House.

But Robert Grimes, 54, of Cadillac says his son is not a supporter of President Donald Trump and should not be associated with those Trump supporters who stormed the U.S. Capitol building. His son keeps an eye on groups such as the Proud Boys and was there to protest the Trump faction, he said.

“We’re a very progressive liberal family … if there’s any reason my son was even present, it’s because of his stand against what a lot of those folks who did horrible things yesterday (believe) — and I’m still sick to my stomach (from) when I saw it on TV last night.”...

Logan Grimes is a social justice activist who participated in Black Lives Matter, is transgender, and believes many groups have faced injustice since Trump’s election, his father said.
Robert Grimes warned that people shouldn’t flip that information on its head, either, by suggesting it was anyone other than Trump supporters who attacked the Capitol...
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2021/01/07/us-capitol-riot-michigan-arrestee-ant-itrump/6588851002/


10 posted on 01/10/2021 3:36:59 AM PST by MAGAthon (,)
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To: RoosterRedux

CAPITOL REPORT
The effort to impeach President Donald Trump for a second time in a little more than a year gained steam on Friday as a growing number of Democrats in Congress signaled their support for the move.

In a letter to her Democratic colleagues, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi suggested that she would move forward with impeachment proceedings if the president doesn’t resign or if Vice President Pence and a majority of the Trump cabinet decline to remove him from power using the 25th Amendment to the Constitution.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/speaker-pelosi-threatens-impeachment-if-trump-refuses-to-step-down-immediately/ar-BB1cACTF?li=BBnb7Kz


11 posted on 01/10/2021 3:38:08 AM PST by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers)
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To: RoosterRedux

I think much bigger things are just ten days away. You could write ten trivial questions over the 6th events, and barely 10-percent of people by mid-summer will remember it.

I also think the demonstration of zero-security at the capital building probably scared the crap out of Congressmen and Senators. Go expect some massive hiring exercise by March....another 3,000 Capital police/junta security force members.

By mid-summer...some type of serious entry-point regulation will exist for the federal side of DC...check-points, guards, etc.


12 posted on 01/10/2021 3:39:26 AM PST by pepsionice
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Logan Grimes, 25, of Grand Rapids was arrested Wednesday in the 1000 block of Vermont Avenue NW in Washington, D.C., and accused of carrying a pistol without a license, possession of a large capacity ammunition feeding device, and possession of unregistered ammunition, according to the Metropolitan Police Department website.

I'm sure dad feels that junior was just there to murder Nazis and therefore should be released immediately, and perhaps temporarily deputized.

And I'm sure he will be released, once the D.C. police/D.A. ascertain that he is one of their own.

13 posted on 01/10/2021 3:43:39 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (The greatest wealth is to live content with little. -Plato)
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To: AJFavish

I wish the right would just hold their ground and tell the Left to GFTselves. This is how we lose, always reacting to their BS. They NEVER care what we think or do. The Left rioted, murdered and destroyed over the Spring and Summer. We are always on our back heels and losing ground and the nation because there is no line.


14 posted on 01/10/2021 3:45:48 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: RoosterRedux
"Much bigger things are coming."

Roger that.

This is the time to square away any preps you may have - find and repair any gaps. And pay cash.

(And watch what you say and who you say it to....)

15 posted on 01/10/2021 3:46:31 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again" - J. Hendrix)
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To: Cobra64

Hope so but we cant be , we need to share on our media pages all honest reports of b-s spewed by the left .
we have millions of uninformed Americans out there , we maybe the only way they see the truth .
Lets all do our part and share the truth !


16 posted on 01/10/2021 3:46:36 AM PST by norinosforme (am i nuts )
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To: RoosterRedux

Democrats have been using “proxy” voting so 5 or 6 congressmen may assign a particular congressman who has remained in DC to vote for them.


17 posted on 01/10/2021 3:50:02 AM PST by mdmathis6
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To: A_perfect_lady

:: carrying a pistol without a license, possession of a large capacity ammunition feeding device, and possession of unregistered ammunition ::

A walking weapons cache for Antifa?
Yeah, IT is innocent alright.


18 posted on 01/10/2021 4:07:39 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (If there be WAR in the offing, let it begin HERE. With ME.)
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To: RoosterRedux

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3922731/posts


19 posted on 01/10/2021 4:21:22 AM PST by AJFavish (www.allanfavish.com)
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To: pepsionice

“By mid-summer...some type of serious entry-point regulation will exist for the federal side of DC...check-points, guards, etc”

Just in time for The District of Corruption to become a “State”.


20 posted on 01/10/2021 4:24:07 AM PST by Does so (We failed to call them Communists...)
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