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To: Vendome
"His heart is in the right place."

No it was not and I'm not gonna bother to read whatever justification he might offer.

He soiled the integrity of the United States Government. The other side doesn't, but "conservatives" should do everything possible to adhere to the law. This was a disgusting and impotent spectacle.

Actually I do believe this was a staged event, not spontaneous, and there were many many Antifa involved.

By doing what is being done right here, right now, in this thread and most certainly on Wednesday, there is a calculated operation to pit conservatives against each other and even against DJT.

Do you think the Capitol Hill sociopaths would never do such a thing? Open your eyes. They're doing it right now.

5 posted on 01/07/2021 5:01:37 PM PST by Jeepers43
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To: Jeepers43

SOOOOO—Who paid the expenses of Antifa getting to & from DC???


6 posted on 01/07/2021 5:04:45 PM PST by ridesthemiles ( )
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To: Jeepers43

Dude

I said I disagree.

FK

I am getting it from both sides yesterday and today.

I would never enter the Capital under any circumstance that a regular citizen would understand.

Putting Capital Police in that position is unfair and dangerous for everyone.

Not sure I care about the safety of Congress though.../S


9 posted on 01/07/2021 5:08:19 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Jeepers43

“He soiled the integrity of the United States Government.”

Is that sarcasm? I hope so. The government shits itself over and over and has only itself to blame.


16 posted on 01/07/2021 5:20:30 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Jeepers43
I'm not pitting myself against you, but you're wrong.

The most important principle for any republic is civic equality or at least a uniform application of the law.

The vote fraud strikes at the very heart of civic equality, as does the disproportionate treatment being given to these protesters who (in the main) merely trespassed vs. the BLM/Antifa types who attacked the White House a few months ago.

If you respect the law when your opponent does not and your opponent's violence is treated with impunity, you're simply being foolish not patriotic.

18 posted on 01/07/2021 5:23:05 PM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Jeepers43

He played right into their hands.


20 posted on 01/07/2021 5:34:45 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Jeepers43
The other side doesn't, but "conservatives" should do everything possible to adhere to the law.

"And this is why you fail..."

22 posted on 01/07/2021 5:38:18 PM PST by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: Jeepers43

What integrity? Like this integrity?

https://nationalfile.com/original-sin-mike-pence-wanted-to-backstab-trump-become-republican-nominee-in-2016/


26 posted on 01/07/2021 5:45:53 PM PST by dforest (RATS are criminals and frauds. Hide anything that belongs to you. They will steal it.)
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To: Jeepers43
The other side doesn't, but "conservatives" should do everything possible to adhere to the law.

That's exactly how we got to the situation we're in. We have tried to do everything possible to adhere to the law while the other side doesn't.

28 posted on 01/07/2021 5:49:38 PM PST by Buttons12 ( )
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To: Jeepers43

stop being such a self-righteous prick. There’s a clear difference between breaking a window and just entering into the capital when emotions are so high he didn’t hurt anybody, break anything, or vandalize. You take a shit just like everybody else so get off your high horse.


31 posted on 01/07/2021 5:54:39 PM PST by hollywood12345
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To: Jeepers43

“...there is a calculated operation to pit conservatives against each other and even against DJT.”

And you just joined it.

The man in his much says there was no option but to do what he did. None of the other institutions of Municipal state or federal government or the Judiciary or congress itself word taking their responsibilities end of the Constitution seriously. Nobody whose specific job it was to care greatly was even listening.

So what exactly is a constitutionally directed citizen of this country to do when every organ of government fails?

Just sit and take it?

What extraordinary righteousness do you have to say what’s right to do next? It’s only in retrospect that we ever truly discover whether sitting on our thumbs was wise or fatal.

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn had quite a bit to say about that.


32 posted on 01/07/2021 5:55:09 PM PST by HKMk23 (You ask how to fight an idea? Well, I'll tell you how: with another idea!)
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To: Jeepers43
"integrity of the United States Government."

Oxymoron, posted by a newb.

There are no more free elections.

Why are you here?

33 posted on 01/07/2021 5:55:39 PM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: Jeepers43
"He soiled the integrity of the United States Government. The other side doesn't, but "conservatives" should do everything possible to adhere to the law. This was a disgusting and impotent spectacle."

What integrity is that? We are not children who must behave while being openly and violently RAPED by those very people we've entrusted to serve us; to be the guardians of our safety & liberty and to act on our behalf to those ends.

Sorry, but I disagree with you. It is THEY, our elected officials, that have SOILED the integrity of our republic and constitution. THEY are the ones who should be in shame; shamed of their greed, power and caviler respect. Pontificating their tripe platitudes of patriotism and sacrifice when they behave as arrogant parasites and sacrifice FOR NOT! It is THEY who have betrayed us, their oaths, their office and constitution.

They are not statesman, but mere mice among giants that line the halls of congress in statues and paintings. It is THEY who are disgusting to watch in impotent spectacle as they walk the halls of our institutions holding their pious heads in arrogant display as if belonging to royalty and entitlement over their subjects.

I see no disgust in someone venting frustration and wanting to find meaning and to understand why he has lived a moral and virtuous life by god the rules and laws... and those he had trusted DO NOT. He looks for answers and inspiration that will counter his sorrow and loss; and just for a moment to feel he is part of an idea bigger than himself as HE walks the halls of his beloved capital that he was taught to believe is filled with righteous and honorable men. He needed his 'Jefferson Smith' moment. He needed to feel there is meaning and explanation to why his beliefs have crumbled and his country has forsaken and betrayed him.

He prays for tomorrow. We all do.
36 posted on 01/07/2021 6:02:32 PM PST by Bellagio
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To: Jeepers43

Entering a glorified government building( which exactly Capitol Hill is) for protesting ( which has been done many times before and with the media backing it) can be considered at worst trespassing. It is not violating any integrity ( an oxymoron) of the bureaucracy.


39 posted on 01/07/2021 6:17:39 PM PST by GregH
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To: Jeepers43

He soiled the integrity of the United States Government.
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Nonsense! The integrity of the United States Government has been continuously soiled since the ‘08 electoion by lawless, treasonous politicians and bureaucrats who collectively comprise what for several years now has been rightly referred to as the Deep State.

“conservatives” should do everything possible to adhere to the law.
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Depends on the law. Everyone has an obligation to adhere to government enacted laws that are not contrary to natural rights, i.e., inalienable rights not dependent on those laws. But no one has a duty to adhere to laws that violate inalienable rights.


52 posted on 01/07/2021 6:53:50 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (Conceding the result of a fraudulent election is both irrational and immoral.)
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To: Jeepers43

“ He soiled the integrity of the United States Government.”

This must be satire.

Integrity of United States government? Even Ted Kaczynski had far more integrity than the combined integrity of this perverse, demonic government.


64 posted on 01/07/2021 7:31:43 PM PST by Scott from the Left Coast (Make Orwell Fiction Again)
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To: Jeepers43

yeah let’s be “better than that” and obey the law like they did in Germany and Russia

Fruits like you and cowards are what is destroying our side.

As well as people who believe the congress isn’t a criminal organization.

Hopefully it’s just the old that still think this nonsense so they won’t ruin the R party another 30 years.


68 posted on 01/07/2021 8:26:49 PM PST by dp0622 (Tried a coup, a fake tax story, tramp slander, Russia nonsense, impeachment and a virus. They lost.)
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To: Jeepers43
and I'm not gonna bother to read...

At least you admit you have no idea WTF you're/we're talking about.

Instead of announcing how ignorant you are, why not just STFU?

70 posted on 01/07/2021 10:12:07 PM PST by AAABEST (NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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