What's your point?
Presenting evidence in court requires a court that's willing to HEAR evidence.
Such honest courts -- including SCOTUS -- are vanishingly rare, nowadays...
TXnMA
Posted on 01/04/2021 8:12:08 AM PST by Red Badger
The House of Representatives and the Senate on Sunday adopted rules that outline how the counting of Electoral College votes will take place on Jan. 6.
The rules were passed without recorded votes. Instead, a voice vote was used in both chambers.
The guidance, introduced by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), says the chambers will meet in a joint session on Jan. 6 presided over by Vice President Mike Pence.
Pence, as president of the Senate, will open “all the certificates and papers purporting to be certificates of the electoral votes,” the rules state, a nod to how seven states sent so-called competing electors, or certificates for both Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden and President Donald Trump, to Washington.
The certificates and papers will be opened, presented, and acted upon in alphabetical order, starting with Alabama.
This is when dozens of Republicans—50 representatives and 12 senators, according to an Epoch Times tally—are planning to object to some certificates, alleging election irregularities including voter fraud and failure to follow state election laws.
That will trigger a withdrawal from the joint session and a two-hour debate, followed by votes in each chamber. Only with a majority vote from both the House and the Senate would a challenge be upheld, which even supporters find unlikely, considering Democrats who control the House and Senate Republican leadership, including McConnell, have expressed disapproval with the plan to object.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) in a letter to colleagues on Sunday noted that objections can happen but said, at the end of the day, Biden “will be officially declared the next president.”
“On Monday, we will have a clearer picture of how many state votes will be subject to an objection. Our choice is not to use the forum to debate the presidency of Donald Trump,” she added.
Reps. Ron Estes (R-Kan.), Tracey Mann (R-Kan.), and Jacob LaTurner (R-Kan.) said Sunday they will join in the objections, saying in a statement that several states are “facing serious allegations of voter fraud and violations of their own state law.”
“This action is not taken lightly and comes after extensive study and research. Kansans deserve to know that all legal, and only legal, votes were counted. We hope our actions begin to restore the confidence of tens of millions of our fellow Americans that feel their sacred right to vote is under attack,” they added.
Reps. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) and Richard Hudson (R-N.C.) also announced Sunday they’ll object.
But seven Republican representatives, including several strong Trump supporters, said they will not join in the effort, and denounced the move.
“Of the six states as to which questions have been raised, five have legislatures that are controlled by Republicans, and they all have the power to send a new slate of electoral votes to Congress if they deem such action appropriate under state law. Unless that happens between now and Jan. 6, 2021, Congress will have no authority to influence the outcome of the 2020 presidential election,” the group wrote in a statement.
“To take action otherwise—that is, to unconstitutionally insert Congress into the center of the presidential election process—would amount to stealing power from the people and the states. It would, in effect, replace the Electoral College with Congress, and in so doing strengthen the efforts of those on the left who are determined to eliminate it or render it irrelevant.”
The weekend saw a flurry of action, with 11 senators following Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) in announcing they’d join in the objections unless Congress appoints a commission to examine alleged election irregularities. The idea is modeled on the panel formed in 1877 amid a contested election.
Hawley’s Dec. 30 announcement triggered a number of House members to announce their intention to object. The number planning to do so has more than doubled since then.
A segment of Republicans are focusing on Pence’s role in the proceedings. They sued the vice president and asked a court to rule he has the “exclusive authority” to decide between dueling electors.
A judge dismissed the case and an appeals court rejected an appeal.
Pence had asked the court to dismiss the suit but said through a spokesman on Saturday that he supports efforts to challenge electoral votes.
“Vice President Pence shares the concerns of millions of Americans about voter fraud and irregularities in the last election,” Pence’s chief of staff, Marc Short, said in the statement sent to media outlets.
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Biden “will be officially declared the next president.”
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They can approve all “the rules” they want. It means NOTHING.
Pushing through a CRIMINAL ELECTION is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
“So many people will be removed from the Senate and House that there will need to be new elections.”
You mean in the last two weeks. They would certainly impeach him.
It’s a 2fer for her side! she will always be in the majority because she knows that our base is angry as hell and will vote out all those bastards or will sit out voting altogether! Sad day for our nation up ahead! Consider our party...DEAD! USSA here we come!!
So each state that uses the electronic balloting should be challenged! Does each state objection get a two hour debate? To start with the six battleground states times two is twelve hours of debate... if you include rejecting any of the other states with electronic balloting... that would add to the hours of debate for each, right?
But seven Republican representatives, including several strong Trump supporters, said they will not join in the effort, and denounced the move.
“Of the six states as to which questions have been raised, five have legislatures that are controlled by Republicans, and they all have the power to send a new slate of electoral votes to Congress if they deem such action appropriate under state law.
Unless the leadership says no...............
Personally, I think that this 117th congress will be the shortest termed congress in US history.
Trump is going after EVERYONE that is willing to sign their name to a clearly fraudulent vote. The evidence being presented is not just so they will do the right thing... the evidence is being presented to establish guilt if they don’t do the right thing.
Trump would prefer to win, but he is still loading up for bear when the vote is over.
So many people will be removed from the Senate and House that there will need to be new elections.
Nothing will happen...he has nowhere to turn...
What gets done about it. A lot of the ugly and bad have been exposed. Yet they still get voted in office. Likely by voter fraud..
“There are rumors Trump is getting ready to flee the country.”
You probably believe the moon is made of green cheese also.....right?
There are rumors Trump is getting ready to flee the country. Bit skeptical on that, but I would not be surprised to see him send his dependent children and grandchildren out.
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Beware the Ides of March. There was a thread a month or so ago comparing Donald Trump to Julius Caesar crossing the Rubicon. And I do not doubt for a moment that after Donald Trump leaves office he will be charged with crimes and misdemeanors. Felonies even. Possibly even arrested. If things go badly this week, then I would expect Donald Trump to either pardon himself, or resign and have Mike Pence issue a presidential pardon.
As if that would help. The level of hatred, anger, and viciousness against Trump will be astounding. He very well may be in mortal danger.
I hope Trump knows that a “voice” vote on the procedures for the electoral vote count on January 6, 2021 was approved and started by Mitch McConnell.
And toilet paper, get lots of toilet paper. Because people are going to sh...
This is all going to play out to its inevitable conclusion against the backdrop of millions of patriots in the DC streets and Trump addressing the crowds. Trump has to be able to say he let every part of the constitutional process play out and the courts and they failed.
Only then can he invoke the insurrection act which I believe he will because the DNI report has not been made public yet or what the CISA captured on election night. I have to believe those are the big guns.
What's your point?
Presenting evidence in court requires a court that's willing to HEAR evidence.
Such honest courts -- including SCOTUS -- are vanishingly rare, nowadays...
TXnMA
>>> Nothing will happen...he has nowhere to turn...
He has the military. He may have to use it to save they country... and the military KNOWS that.
Presenting evidence in court requires a court that's willing to HEAR evidence.
That's an incomplete answer and you're not the only one doing that.
A Complaint was filed by the Plaintiffs to the Court which outlined the claims the Plaintiff is alleging, and also a remedy that the Plaintiff seeks. In several of those Complaints, there are also affidavits, and other detailed information, etc.
The Court reviewed the Complaint and declined to hear the Complaint in a formal setting and almost always issued a reason why they would not hear.
Maybe, just maybe, Rudy G. should be bringing on lawyers whose specific practice area is election law, etc. He has been poorly prepared for several of his court appearances related to the 2020 Election.
No, thankfully that's not going to happen.
Except that is not going to stop that actions that Congress takes on 01/06. Or the actions that will take place on 01/20.
I doubt that Trump is under any illusions that McConnell has the President's back. Not after the last month or more.
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