Posted on 12/15/2020 5:26:11 AM PST by Eleutheria5
Competing slates of electors, one certified by Gov and SOS of each state, and one by legislatures.
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I've said since day 1 (Nov 4th) - The dems always overreach - they always think they have a mandate when they don't.
And they will again. They will become a stench and will be their own worst enemy. Patience.
All this: "IT's over!" talk is ignorance. I heard it in 1996 - 2008 and was threatened with it to vote for Bush - McCain and Romney. It's always shortsighted. If the Republic survived 8 years of Obama it can survive 2 years of these two until we get the majority back in the house like we did in 2010 - provided we don't cut off our nose to spite our face.
You are quoting a law?
Constitution trumps any law.
And on this issue constitution says if state legislature determines that the election was fraudulent or had other issues, the STATE legislators get to pick their own electors.
I agree. It only determines it is a contested election.
So what happens next per constitution ??
Impossible to correct you when you are already correct.
So what happens next per constitution ??
The slate of electors selected in accordance with the Constitution will be counted. The slate of electors selected without following the Constitution will be discarded. Biden will win - 306 to 232. That's what I suspect will happen.
This is not over!
Understand this: When all that is left to play out is over, Donald Trump has a better chance of winning than Joe Biden does.
Don’t listen to Democrat “experts” lying to you about the result of the competing lists submitted by the courageous legislators in seven states.
They will call all of the remaining necessary moves Trump has “desperate and doomed to failure.” His moves will be nether disparate nor doomed to failure.
When the seven state legislatures, that did so, submitted their competing list of Electoral College voters yesterday everything swung back to Trump’s favor.
The Electoral Count Act (ECA) of 1887 says each chamber of Congress will separately decide which slate of ‘dueling electors’ to accept, but the Senate will decide how the competing lists impact the Vice Presidential election and the House of Representatives will decide how the competing lists impact the Presidential election.
The legislators who submitted competing list of EC voters have acted under the authority of the United States Constitution. Therefore, they did not need permission from their governor to act.
The fact that the Governor of Michigan ultimately failed to stop the Legislators in her state from submitting a competing list of Electoral College voters goes a long way to affirming the legislator’s rights under the US Constitution.
What these courageous men and women did, is all that is important now.
The competing lists these states submitted will cause challenges to the lists submitted by the Secretaries of State in Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin on January 5.
These challenges, which must be made in writing and signed by one Senator and one member of the House of Representatives, will be considered by both Houses and both must agree to reject the challenge or – presumably they stand.
So, the Constitution leans toward the challengers.
There would be two hours of debate allotted, but I don’t know if that would be two hours for each challenge or two aggregate hours covering all challenges.
Since all challenges would be on substantially the same grounds they probably would be covered in the two hour timeframe.
Considering the Electoral College vote values in each of the contested states, if the challenges involving just Pennsylvania – 20, Georgia – 16 and Arizona- 11 were upheld, they would result in a Trump victory at 279/259.
The evidence of voter fraud in each of these states is overwhelming to any fair observer.
What is more likely is that these challenges would either all be accepted or all be rejected since they would all be based on the same claims of fraud by Democrats. Winning all of these challenges would mean a 316/222 ECv win for Trump.
How it goes in each House-Senate first:
In the Senate, where only the winner of the vice presidential election is voted on, even if we lose both seats in the Georgia runoffs, a tie is produced and a Senate tie is broken by the President of the Senate who is Vice President Michael Pence.
Since they would be not be voting directly for or against Trump, the unreliable and sometimes Trump hostile core of Republicans in the Senate- Romney, Murkowski, Sasse and Collins would likely not try to hurt Trump. It is a safe bet Pence wins.
In the House of Representatives where only the winner of the presidential election considered:
Unlike in the Senate, where each member votes, the House of Representatives would choose the President by a vote from each state which would get just one vote. That voter would be determined by the Congressional delegation in each state.
The incoming House of Representatives will include a Republican advantage in 27 of the state delegations – a candidate needs 26 votes to win the White House.
If the two chambers disagree, we could end up in uncharted territory; and the matter would go to the Supreme Court. In that case the Court would have to be swayed by the “will of the people.”
It is not hard to imagine that the Justices would look at the established rampant Democrat voter fraud with no allegations of Republican voter fraud in this election and take “judicial notice” of it.
In the absence of anything else to consider (they will not accept a case from the Democrats asking them to change the constitution for them); it is hard to see how the Court could ignore the large number (315) of EVvs Trump will have gotten.
I believe that would weigh heavily in favor of finding for President Trump.
All of this means the Republican competing lists would eventually bring victory for President Trump.
So, after all our prayers, all our volunteer work, all our contributions, all our lawsuits and all our investigative work, we are in a good position to win.
In any contest, as time runs out, it is always best to be either a clear winner or in a position to win. Today we can say we are in a clear winner position that is much more preferable to Joe Biden’s position.
Media lies:
You definitely will not hear anything about how this is likely to play out and Trump will win.
The media will continue to ignore the competing lists or dishonestly call them desperate stunts.
They will keep pumping out their propaganda – we must keep praying for God’s help.
To make this process far less stressful we must win both seats in Georgia, please do what you can to help make this happen.
They did it outside, if I read the conflicting stories correctly.
Yeah that’s not illegal. Wth. This is so in our faces. Courts just kick this out. Don’t want to hear it. It’s so bad that biden couldn’t even talk about it without coughing his way through the speech.
It is Not that clear Mr Nostradamus!
The US constitution gives the STATE LEGISLATURES the power to discard the elected electors based on a fraud state election (by their own determination, not a court decision) and send their own chosen electors to DC on Jan 6th.
You be sure to wake me when that happens.
Here’s some corroboration from a more reliable indy, streamed yesterday.
LIVE: BREAKING Nevada GOP ELECTORS CAST VOTES FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W39MK-WRKhM
Sounds like it’s time for a Tennis Court Oath (hint: French Revolution).
From Next News Network.
BREAKING: DEMS BLINDSIDED AFTER GOP ELECTORS RISE UP WITH GAME CHANGING MOVE TO CAST VOTES FOR TRUMP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MFEq4aHEb0
Break out your guitars, you ex-hippies in Michigan and also Ted Nugent. Start singing Woodie Guthrie and Pet Seeger ditties.
Like a tree on the water, we will not be moved...
Doodle, get up. See link at Post #74. It’s happened.
Keep telling yourself that and we'll see what happens on January 6th.
And the state legislature CERTIFIED their elections....and the 12th amendment tells how it is done...and the law has been upheld by the SCOTUS. What an ignorant statement.
But go ahead - live in your little fantasy. You have three more weeks and a day to live in it.
But yes - I am quoting LAW - because it is based on the constitution.
None of these "slates of electors" are certified by a State Legislature. Not a one.
IF a slate of electors WERE certified by a legitimate act of a State Legislature, then they WOULD be the actual Electors from that State.
Whether the Congress would accept them as such is doubtful, but at least the assertion would be real.
These "certified electors" are swamp gas.
Does it alarm anyone that Turtle has congratulated Chyyynah-Biden?
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