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Why Other Queers Are Stuffing Lesbians Back In The Closet
The Federalist ^ | December 10, 2020 | Glenn T. Stanton

Posted on 12/10/2020 9:30:33 AM PST by Kaslin

The stubborn fact that male and female each have an objective nature will ultimately be the end of contemporary gender theory, and it looks like the lesbians are the canary in that coal mine.


“[L]esbian as a category” is vanishing, warns lesbian journalist Katie Herzog over at Andrew Sullivan’s Weekly Dish. She laments that being an out and proud lesbian is no longer cool and notes how women who like women are increasingly “coming out as nonbinary or as men” instead.

Herzog noted this just days before “Juno” and “The Umbrella Academy” star Ellen Page announced on December 1 that she is no longer a lesbian because she’s now a “he” named Elliot. She explained, “I can’t express how remarkable it feels to finally love who I am enough to pursue my authentic self.”

Ellen is still married to dancer Emma Portner. Thus, it is unclear what that makes Emma now. PinkNews reported that someone “clumsily” asked her this very question on Instagram, to which Emma curiously replied, “I hope you know my sexual preferences and gender identity are none of your business.”

But it does appear Emma is no longer a lesbian, explaining, “Release your labels of me. I am as fluid as can be.” It certainly was not the questioner who brought up labels. Emma throws them out like candy, describing her new husband (?) as “trans, queer and non-binary” and herself as “genderqueer.” Lesbian is no longer in their lexicon.

It’s more than celebrities. This is a nationwide trend. Lesbian bars are drying up at such a rapid clip that the Lesbian Bar Project is here to save them. While there are more than 63,000 bars across America today, only 15 of them are the lesbian type.

Alabama has as precisely as many as California: one each. Texas is the only state with two. New York has three, all in Gotham. This is a dramatic decline from the roughly 200 lesbian joints that dotted our nation in the late 1980s.

LGBT Unfolds as an Attempt to Erase the Sexual Yin-Yang

Each of the lesbians Herzog spoke to for her article asked to be kept anonymous for fear of reprisals from their supposed allies in the queer community. One confirmed, “It’s not cool to be a lesbian in the same way that it’s cool to be queer or trans or nonbinary.” Another expressed that most of her peers now see the term “lesbians as stodgy, old-fashioned, and uncool, whereas queers were hip, edgy, and inclusive.”

Non-binary and queer are the cool new things. Anything that smacks of being a genuine woman is not. The stubborn fact that male and female each have an objective nature will ultimately be the end of contemporary gender theory, and it looks like lesbians are the canary in that coal mine.

Herzog tells of a professor friend who mentioned to a campus colleague that she was lesbian. The woman “reacted like I’d confessed to being a Confederate Lost-Causer.” She was scolded that “the term is outdated and problematic, and I shouldn’t use it.”

The problem is it’s a bit too bio-essentialist and exclusive. So this professor now keeps quiet about her sexuality among her leftist peers. In fact, she added ironically, “it’s like living in a second closet” now.

Lesbianism Is Not What Leftists Say It Is

What’s at work here is about much more than lesbianism simply losing its cool. It involves two fundamental problematic realities inherent in LGBT dogma and practice.

First, lesbianism never was the “thing” its promoters claimed it was. It is certainly not “just the way some people are.” This has been made clear in various ways in the academic literature over the last two decades.

Would it surprise you to know that people who identify as lesbian have much higher pregnancy rates than heterosexual women? It is true. One study among many explains, “Again, bisexual and lesbian teens were more likely in each region to report pregnancy histories than heterosexual peers.”

Another study examined the pregnancy rates of adult sexual-minority women [SMW], revealing the same thing: “In our supplementary analyses, we found that both unintended pregnancies ending in abortion and unintended pregnancies with other outcomes (e.g., birth, miscarriage) were more common for SMW than heterosexual women.”

In fact, the abortion and birth rates of non-heterosexually identified women is roughly twice that of the heterosexual population. That is a whole lot of baby-making sex going on among women who were supposedly “born lesbian.”

Leading gender theorists have long established that female sexuality, contrary to that of males, is extremely malleable. Professor Lisa Diamond is a giant in this field. In an important TEDx Talk, she explained, “The plain truth is that gender and sexual development show a lot more variability than most people realize, and that variability often leads to change over time in sexual attraction. . . . Sexual attractions show a fair amount of fluidity.”

This is because, Diamond explains, “women are . . . more likely than men to say that they become attracted to—or fall in love with—the person and not the gender.” As such, “women typically report that their unusually strong emotional feelings spill over into sexual desire— . . . even desires that contradict their sexual orientations—as a result of falling in love.” Diamond’s most notable publication is her book “Sexual Fluidity: Understanding Women’s Love and Desire,” published by Harvard University Press.

Another leader in the field, Northwestern University’s J. Michael Bailey, infamously asked in a classic paper whether women even have a sexual orientation as we typically think about it. He explains, “There is an emerging consensus that women’s sexual partner choices are sometimes made for different reasons than men’s.”

“Men,” Bailey adds, “but not women, have a category-specific sexual arousal pattern, one that is usually directed more strongly to members of one sex than to those of the other.” He and his peers in the field conclude that, in general, men have a sexual orientation toward certain body parts. Women have a romantic orientation to the person. This understanding has gained near-universal consensus and explains the high pregnancy rates of so-called lesbians.

Women Must Kneel to Men in Lesbian Bars

Still, lesbianism, such as it is, is also being smashed by the intolerant patriarchy of transgenderism. This is no small thing. The lesbian bar is no longer a women’s space because, the Lesbian Bar Project claims, “the label Lesbian belongs to all people who feel that it empowers them.”

This is lesbian sisterhood being forced to submit to men under the patriarchal guise of trans inclusivity. In the good old days, any self-respecting lesbian could tell a man who insisted on buying her a drink where he could go and be cheered a feminist hero for doing so. Today, if that same man wears a pencil skirt and claims to be trans, that lesbian becomes the worst person in the world.

Herzog bravely and correctly observes, “Oddly, these fights only seem to occur around women’s space, not men’s.” That is because women who believe they are men know better than to sidle up to the gay bar insisting they are just one of the guys looking for a good time.

U.K. lesbian writer Claire Heuchan warns, “Everywhere you look, there are reminders of how little the safety and wellbeing of lesbian women is valued. We can’t seem to escape violence and vilification. Especially since, in recent months, a lot of it has come from within the LGBT communities we helped build. …[E]ven within LGBT spheres, where we are – at least theoretically – part of the community, lesbians are now being vilified.”

Women being forced to bow to the needs of men. Who saw this happening when gender theory tried to convince us that men and women are all just the same?


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To: Kaslin
“I hope you know my sexual preferences and gender identity are none of your business.”

If only.

21 posted on 12/10/2020 9:56:02 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (We flattened the heck out of that curve, didn’t we?)
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To: Kaslin; Skywise

Sex is real, gender is a grammatical term.


22 posted on 12/10/2020 9:57:43 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Kaslin

As a straight, married Christian, White male in my 70s, all the new gender labels confuse me. The same confusion I have when entering a room in our house and wondering what it was that I was looking for when going into that room.


23 posted on 12/10/2020 9:58:13 AM PST by RicocheT
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To: Kaslin

So Ellen Page is no longer a Lesbian, she is a white heterosexual male.


24 posted on 12/10/2020 9:58:26 AM PST by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List )
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To: Kaslin

On the local news last night, it was reported that men drive more aggressively than women as if it was a startling new discovery. Un-PC as hell to say such a thing! Mutants everywhere must have been offended on so many levels.


25 posted on 12/10/2020 9:59:31 AM PST by bluejean (Living one day at a time in the national psych ward.)
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To: Kaslin

My theory is that all of this is a ruse, to make plain old homosexuality look “normal” by comparison. Or dare I say, even “Conservative”.

Just more “defining deviancy down”.


26 posted on 12/10/2020 9:59:41 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Kaslin
in general, men have a sexual orientation toward certain body parts. Women have a romantic orientation to the person.

That's been my experience, yes.

And the men taking over the lesbian bars as "trans" are just garden variety rapists in a dress. It's the ultimate power trip to force a lesbian to have sex with them.

27 posted on 12/10/2020 9:59:45 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (The greatest wealth is to live content with little. -Plato)
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To: Kaslin

Pretty much nowadays every female celebrity, even those married to men say crap like “I’m not exactly straight”, even though they probably never slept with a woman nor plan to. It’s just what all of the “cool kids” are doing these days.


28 posted on 12/10/2020 10:01:12 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Kaslin

What a wall of weirdness to try and skim through.


29 posted on 12/10/2020 10:01:44 AM PST by doorgunner69 (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading - T Jefferson)
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To: AppyPappy

A woman that Identifies as a male is weird, same a male that identifies a woman is weird. The example is that idiot who fathered five or six kids, I’m sure you know that he hangs around with women, and you know why? He likes women. Men don’t want to hang around him. Now think about this.


30 posted on 12/10/2020 10:05:10 AM PST by Kaslin (Joe Biden will never be my President, and neither will Kamala Harris)
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To: Kaslin

An attempt to “normalize” lesbianism and make it acceptable for conservatives.


31 posted on 12/10/2020 10:07:07 AM PST by Clemenza
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To: nickcarraway

Exactly


32 posted on 12/10/2020 10:08:11 AM PST by Kaslin (Joe Biden will never be my President, and neither will Kamala Harris)
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To: doorgunner69
I'm still trying to figure out the difference between, "Best Actress" and, "Best Female Actor," awards.

Now that we have 57+ genders floating about out there (one for each of Obama's states), will the Academy have to give Oscars for, "best cisqueer lesbian pansexual transexual in a comedy?"

33 posted on 12/10/2020 10:08:33 AM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: Kaslin
Boo. Hoo.

A lot of these genderf'd girls are from lesbian housemates. So it's as much as finger in the eye of Mom and Mom, rebels without a cause.

34 posted on 12/10/2020 10:13:53 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Eric Coomer of Dominion Voting Systems Is The Blue Dress)
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To: AppyPappy

Wait until you get to the women who are attracted to a guy who thinks he is female, and the woman thinks that makes her gay, and persecuted.


35 posted on 12/10/2020 10:14:47 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Boogieman

I don’t think women are in love with the person so much as they are the relationship with the person

Men.....the octane is physical attraction no question

You build from that....hopefully

Having endured my share of difficulty in relationships and marriages with a number of lucky women..lol

You can survive problems if you have a strong physical relationship....if you don’t it’s much harder or you just become buddies cause you’re lazy or afraid to be alone...this works for both sexes....or you have at home kids

But if you really love to have sex with one another and it’s a cornerstone of the relationship it acts both as glue and a goal

Even when you age...I know I know...that’s gross lol

But it’s true

At least to me

Smart gals know this.....instinctly


36 posted on 12/10/2020 10:16:20 AM PST by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you run the tra)
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To: Kaslin

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
SNORT.
hahahahahahahahahahahaha....


37 posted on 12/10/2020 10:17:09 AM PST by Kozak (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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To: Kaslin

How transgenderism erases women ...

I’ll add that transgender is the new sacred cow, to the point that other liberals will tear down lesbians for saying no, a dude in a dress shouldn’t be in women’s bathrooms. The vitriol against “TERFs” or trans-exclusionary radical feminists has been major for years.

The tackiest BS is that lesbians are being pressured to have sex with heterosexual men in dresses who conveniently identify as lesbians (women who like women). It is even called the cotton ceiling. Thus you get lesbians stigmatized and bullied for refusing to have sex with a guy, but few people would shame a homosexual dude for not having sex with a “nonbinary” woman.


38 posted on 12/10/2020 10:18:40 AM PST by tbw2
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To: Kaslin

“I hope you know my sexual preferences and gender identity are none of your business.”

That’s rich.

And if it were only so.


39 posted on 12/10/2020 10:18:57 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: BenLurkin

It is a bailey and motte argument. Redefine terms, so you can use either definition of the word for the sake of your argument.

This is how liberals can argue Christians must endorse sexual minorities in violation of the Bible, because didn’t God say “love” is the highest virtue ... and liberals appropriated the word to equal sexual deviancy.


40 posted on 12/10/2020 10:19:56 AM PST by tbw2
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