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1 posted on 12/05/2020 5:58:58 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

No one can ever prove this is the shroud that covered Jesus. The grant money and other money making opportunities will go on forever.


2 posted on 12/05/2020 6:27:55 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Kaslin
I don't believe the shroud is a real and authentic wrapping for Jesus ... The word "wrap", and the practice of preparing a body for burial (the women disciples were certainly confused by this body that they thought was God and were HURREDLY trying to prepare for burial), doesn't allowed for anyone to pick up a body, lay it down on a VERY large and flat sheet, and fold it over the body to produce a two sided image.

Scripture calls it a "napkin".

I don't believe the shroud is real

3 posted on 12/05/2020 6:27:59 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ..... I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: Kaslin
In before the "I don't need the Shroud to be saved", etc."

Nobody says you need extra-biblical miracles to have faith (although, to be a Christian, one is required to believe that miracles occur). But God sends them anyway.

4 posted on 12/05/2020 7:04:55 AM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: Kaslin

The evidence is overwhelming that the Shroud was the burial cloth of Jesus and in fact records His Resurrection.

There are many good Shroud sites but the best IMO is:

https://theshroudofturin.blogspot.com/

This site is not organized for easy comprehension, but fairly and scrupulously covers every aspect of Shroud research. You need to look. It is just plain fascinating.

The central FACT of human Earthly existence is the historical reality of Jesus and all that implies.

The Shroud is a beautiful gift from God, a gift reserved especially for modern man.

I respect those Christians who are anxious to dispute the authenticity of the Shroud. I have heard all the reasons and disagree. God bless you for your pov.

I am simply happy that God has opened my mind and heart to the special gift of the Shroud.


6 posted on 12/05/2020 7:13:37 AM PST by Gratia
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To: Kaslin

None of the Shroud dissenters ever showed how the image was formed nor can they explain the negative image centuries before photography was invented.


13 posted on 12/05/2020 7:54:36 AM PST by SkyDancer (~ Pilots: Looking Down On People Since 1903 ~)
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To: Kaslin
Believing in the man-made article regerred to as "The Shroud of Turin" supposedly bearing a representative shadow of the dead body of Jesus will not and cannot impart salvation, regeneration, and life in The Spirit. Presuming that it adds one iota to the Gospel is idolatry, nothing less.
"Faith is the substance of the things hoped for, the eviddence of thinhs unseen"Heb. 11:1 AV).
That is why the regeneerate servant of God and Jesus Friend never seeks such a temporal artifact, because faith stands alone on nothing except Jesus and His Word.

Occupation with the Sh of T is pure idolatry. a Satanic pursuit, IMHO.

17 posted on 12/05/2020 8:10:42 AM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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The shroud is surrounded by mystery and controversy.

But the one question no one asks, if it was created in the Middle ages is WHO would subject themselves to the brutal torture depicted?
That name would be recorded in antiquities as an example of ultimate sacrifice.Yet only one man, throughout history, has been named to have suffered as the man depicted on the shroud.
Jesus Christ

21 posted on 12/05/2020 8:26:19 AM PST by Wizdum
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To: Kaslin
Arguing about a test done 30 years ago misses the point.

Before you ask what it is, you need to reasonably establish if it is. In other words, what is the earliest date you can peg it to in the verifiable historical time stream.

What verifiable Church writers mention the item? Clement I? No. Origen? No. Tertullian? No. Augustine? No. Jerome? No. Aquinas? No.

That gets you well into the 13th Century. If it existed before that, nobody seems to have known about it.

26 posted on 12/05/2020 11:06:31 AM PST by Poison Pill
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Here is a suggestion I bet no one has thought of (yeah, right).

Isolate and sequence DNA from the flax fibers.
Compute the genetic drift to modern flax from Israel and from ancient samples of known provenance.


29 posted on 12/05/2020 3:29:22 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (White Privilege does NOT begin with Being White but when you ACT "WHITE"! -- ACT "WHITE"!)
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To: Kaslin
As Sherlock Holmes said, once you eliminate everything that is not possible, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truth. The Shroud is either real or it's a fake. So, the first question is: is it even possible for it to be a fake. At this point, I don't think that it is. What does that leave you with?
31 posted on 12/05/2020 3:41:51 PM PST by NurdlyPeon (It is the nature of liberals to pervert whatever they touch.)
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Ping


34 posted on 12/05/2020 7:52:48 PM PST by Golden Eagle (Born Free, as free as the wind blows..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg9558phUwg)
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To: Kaslin

NTSA!!!


40 posted on 12/06/2020 5:38:17 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kaslin

Hoax

Marino is a professional hoaxer


73 posted on 12/11/2020 5:08:38 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) t Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay My, o. h, my, what a wonderful day)
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