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Turley: Third Circuit decision on 2nd Amendment “perfectly tailored” for Supreme Court after Barrett confirmation
hotair.com ^ | 11/25/2020 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 11/25/2020 10:23:36 AM PST by rktman

The Supreme Court has become notoriously skittish about Second Amendment cases in the years after Heller. That may change now after a Third Circuit ruling upheld a ban on firearm ownership for felons, even those convicted of non-violent crimes. In a 2-1 decision, the court ruled that a tax-evasion conviction was sufficient for a lifetime removal of Second Amendment rights:

At issue in this case is the Second Amendment’s standing as an individual right, argues Jonathan Turley, the basis for the Heller decision. Folajtar “falls into the still grey area” of Heller, Turley writes, especially since the court recognized the right of states to prohibit felons from owning firearms in McDonald two years later.

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Sad that it has come to this when most of us already know the second amendment applies to individuals.
1 posted on 11/25/2020 10:23:36 AM PST by rktman
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2 posted on 11/25/2020 10:27:14 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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the court ruled that a tax-evasion conviction was sufficient for a lifetime removal of Second Amendment rights

BS, that's been the Left's strategy by increasing qualifying "crimes" that allow for elimination of your 2nd amendment rights.

3 posted on 11/25/2020 10:27:52 AM PST by 1Old Pro ( )
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From article: If the Second Amendment is a fully incorporated individual civil right, however, the law and the courts should arguably use strict scrutiny in reviewing the constitutionality of laws that infringe on it.

I'm not sure what the incorporation doctrine has to do with this case, though. This 3rd Circuit case is a challenge to federal law, 18 USC s. 922(g)(1), not a state law. So the 2nd Amendment applies directly, not through incorporation in the 14th Amendment.

4 posted on 11/25/2020 10:30:35 AM PST by The Pack Knight
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To: rktman

That is dead-on-target for a previous Barrett ruling.


5 posted on 11/25/2020 10:33:14 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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I was just thinking, if the govt. could get away with requiring auto weapons to be licensed and require a costly stamp, what’s to prevent them from doing the same thing with semi autos?


6 posted on 11/25/2020 10:39:05 AM PST by Hot Tabasco
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I worry about gang-bangers, Martha Stewart, not so much.


7 posted on 11/25/2020 10:43:10 AM PST by umgud
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For the first 200 years of our Republic, Rights were restored after the sentence was served.

This gives convicted felons one less reason to straighten up and fly right.

If a violent felon is too dangerous to be let loose, then don’t let them loose. If you have to let them loose, then let the rest of us... including non-violent felons, exercise our Right to defend ourselves.


8 posted on 11/25/2020 10:49:14 AM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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...what’s to prevent them from doing the same thing with semi autos?

...or one's posting on Free Republic?

9 posted on 11/25/2020 10:57:14 AM PST by frog in a pot (The American voter should realize there is nothing democratic about the current Democrat Party.)
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“I worry about gang-bangers, Martha Stewart, not so much.”

True, but that being said......The right to keep and bear arms is either a constitutional right inviolate or it is not.

One exception may as well be a thousand.


10 posted on 11/25/2020 11:00:29 AM PST by traderrob6
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If you’re a felon and you’re allowed to vote then you should be allowed to carry arms.


11 posted on 11/25/2020 11:11:20 AM PST by nickcarraway
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The problem with the left is they are starting to consider spoken words as violence.


12 posted on 11/25/2020 11:16:36 AM PST by alternatives? (If our borders are not secure, why fund an army?)
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If the individual rights are all equally applied, a felon didn’t lose the first ammendant right, why lose the second ammendment once all time and fines are served?


13 posted on 11/25/2020 11:21:50 AM PST by exnavy (american by birth and choice, I love this country!)
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If we don’t trust convicted felons with guns, why do we trust them with knives, baseball bats, cars, containers of gasoline ...


14 posted on 11/25/2020 11:25:48 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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Agreed, sort of. It could be argued that a felons vote may more widely spread destruction than a felon with a gun.


15 posted on 11/25/2020 11:37:37 AM PST by Afterguard (Deplorable me! )
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Additional offenses that should qualify for a lifetime ban on firearms possession:

Overdue library books.
Failure to wear a mask on a deserted island.
Removing the tag on a mattress.
Joining the NRA.
Owning a magazine with 4 or more rounds capacity.


16 posted on 11/25/2020 12:21:20 PM PST by centurion316
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“I was just thinking, if the govt. could get away with requiring auto weapons to be licensed and require a costly stamp, what’s to prevent them from doing the same thing with semi autos?”

That’s exactly what Biden proposes to do - not only the rifle but for every single magazine too.

17 posted on 11/25/2020 12:25:04 PM PST by circlecity
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I know


18 posted on 11/25/2020 12:48:35 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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“the Left’s strategy by increasing qualifying “crimes” that allow for elimination of your 2nd amendment rights.”

Yeah, the easy to get nailed by angry spouse domestic violence scam and red flag bullshiite come to mind.


19 posted on 11/25/2020 12:56:05 PM PST by doorgunner69 (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading - T Jefferson)
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That’s exactly what it is. Maryland and other states have been known to reclassify crimes as disqualifying for firearms ownership which previously had not been, then going after people who had been convicted of those crimes decades earlier when they apply for permits for things like hunting.

So you got into a bar fight in 1975 and spent the night in jail. You enter a guilty plea because the punishment is that night you already spent in jail plus a $15 fine. Matter resolved. But wait! 30 years later, that same charge becomes disqualifying. You apply for a hunting license. State troopers show up at your door with a warrant and find guns. You - who hasn’t thought about that bar fight once in 30 years - think all is well. They inform you that you are a prohibited person in possession of multiple firearms. Now facing multiple felonies. Good luck!

Absolutely unconstitutional!


20 posted on 11/25/2020 1:13:24 PM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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