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Righty fury at Fox News is just conservative fratricide
NY Post ^ | 11/22/2020 | Peter Roff

Posted on 11/22/2020 10:57:19 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom

For some inexplicable reason, conservatives rush towards fratricide with the same kind of urgency that drives lemmings over the cliff. It’s what they do, even when it’s counterproductive and costly.

Conservatism wasn’t made better off by the four-year campaign waged against Speaker Newt Gingrich by some House conservatives who considered him ideologically unreliable. It wasn’t helped by John Boehner’s premature departure from Congress, brought about by political headaches caused by House Republicans on his right flank.

A small group of so-called purists on the right even crossed swords with President Ronald Reagan, without whom modern conservatism would have emerged stillborn after the Barry Goldwater’s 1964 thumping at Lyndon Johnson’s hands. Yes, the purists even scourged Reagan, who launched a revolution the left is still trying to roll back.

In the light of what appears to be President Trump’s defeat in his re-election bid, conservatives are now turning on Fox News, a channel where I once appeared with some frequency back in the 1990s, over its supposed ideological apostasy.

What nonsense. Fox was never an explicitly conservative organization, but, as conceived by Rupert Murdoch and brought to life by Roger Ailes, it was successfully positioned as the counterpunch to the overtly liberal networks that dominated the media: CBS, ABC, NBC and CNN.

It was a necessary addition to the nation’s information stream. The opinion side of the network leans heavily to the right, but the news-gathering operation plays it mostly down the middle, remembering the need for balance, because every story has at least two sides.

As a programming strategy, it works. The network is a financial and ratings juggernaut embraced by conservatives, because Fox News gave their agenda and personalities a fair hearing.

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To: KC Burke
Let’s see what they sound like after a couple of years of reduced ad revenues,

True dat.

Just talked to my conservative, less-informed brother yesterday - he's still getting his FakeNews from Faux, and he tells me that my conservative, less Media-savvy sister is ALSO still getting her "news" from Faux.

I'm going to have to work on both of them.

I myself haven't had TeeVee for 15 years...

81 posted on 11/23/2020 8:20:47 AM PST by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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To: bagster

There’s still a gulf between a claim and the truth.

Even the word “patriot” is abused by the left; take note that World War II is called the “Great Patriotic War” in Russia from the USSR time till this day.


82 posted on 11/23/2020 9:27:39 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Pontiac

No, Ailes did not leave a successful formula alone. The “course correction” was his idea.


83 posted on 11/23/2020 9:28:39 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

They should have to post a disclaimer stating as much so that more people know of their biased viewpoint.


84 posted on 11/23/2020 9:33:15 AM PST by JerseyDvl (No Faith in the Electoral Process! FRAUD REIGNS SUPREME.)
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To: Olog-hai
Even the word “patriot” is abused by the left.

I don't give a damn about the left and what they say.

There is a schism in the conservative movement. Its time for true Americans to break away from the Lincoln Project cucks and reclaim the party.

Dems are not patriots. Rinos are not patriots.

We are patriots. American patriots, which is not similar to Russian patriots. Russians are patriotic to Russia.


85 posted on 11/23/2020 9:36:08 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

The writing was on the wall when News Corp was broken up.

FNC died five years ago.


86 posted on 11/23/2020 9:38:32 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds. )
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To: bagster
Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

— Communist goal #15, from “The Naked Communist” (1958), Chapter 12

The New Deal, Dean Acheson wrote approvingly in a book called A Democrat Looks At His Party, “conceived of the federal government as the whole people organized to do what had to be done.” A year later, Mr. (Arthur) Larson wrote A Republican Looks At His Party, and made much the same claim in his book for modern Republicans. The “underlying philosophy” of the New Republicanism, said Mr. Larson, is that “if a job has to be done to meet the needs of the people, and no one else can do it, then it is the proper function of the federal government.”

Here we have, by prominent spokesmen of both political parties, an unqualified repudiation of the principle of limited government. There is no reference by either of them to the Constitution, or any attempt to define the legitimate functions of government. The government can do whatever needs to be done; note, too, the implicit but necessary assumption that it is the government itself that determines what needs to be done. We must not, I think, underrate the importance of these statements. They reflect the view of a majority of the leaders of one of our parties, and of a strong minority among the leaders of the other, and they propound the first principle of totalitarianism: that the State is competent to do all things and is limited in what it actually does only by the will of those who control the State. …

The Conscience of a Conservative (1960), Chapter 2, page 15
There is no schism in the conservative movement, but an invasion. The RINOs are left-wingers who lie about being conservative, and that has been the case for at least over a century.

And my point with referencing the USSR and what they call WWII is that anyone can call himself a “patriot”; remember the admonition about “summer soldier(s) and sunshine patriot(s)” from Paine.
87 posted on 11/23/2020 9:43:54 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

They ran Fox News into the ground, why not go double or nothing and see what they can do with the newspaper Alexander Hamilton founded?


88 posted on 11/23/2020 9:44:01 AM PST by ameribbean expat (Attention! All persons having the corona virus...please report to the nearest IRS office. Thank you.)
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To: Whenifhow; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; bgill; ...

et tu, NYP?


89 posted on 11/23/2020 10:08:16 AM PST by bitt (The left gave us 4 years of Pearl Harbor. Now its time to give them Hiroshima.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Fox News sh*t the bed for good on election night, deciding to create an office where there is none, the clown office of President Elect.

Fox News ratings are about to go so far south they will have to stick their hands up their collective a$$es to the elbow to pull out any real news.

NewsMax is the future. It will replace F**ks Nudes.

We may also have a new media network founded and operated by the Trump family.Kimberly Guilfoil, Bill O’Rielly , Sean Hannity
and others have been in discussion.


90 posted on 11/23/2020 10:13:11 AM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism:http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html) )
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

he opinion side of the network leans heavily to the right>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Not true anymore. They made sure to scandalize their lead conservative commentators and fire them.

I knw it was over when the hired Marie Harf.

Snare , valenced , and overpaid.


91 posted on 11/23/2020 10:15:37 AM PST by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism:http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html) )
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
The opinion side of the network leans heavily to the right, but the news-gathering operation plays it mostly down the middle, remembering the need for balance, because every story has at least two sides.

Chris Wallace has brought the 'if the right understood they would become liberals' to table. That's not 'balance' it's a slap in the face to conservatives and it's giving the finger to real journalism. Wallace's attitude and slippery ethics are dropping down to the other liberals at FOX.

That's the problem.

There have always been liberals at FOX...since day one. They were ideologically different, but above board about differences. That's not the case today.

Look at the stacked deck 'town-halls' to see the difference between how Wallace picked audiences for Trump vs a host of democrats. Or how States were called after the election. It's all 'thumb on the scales' crap. There's honest liberals and there's FOX 'going scummy' liberals.

Fire Chris Wallace - replace him with someone both sides see as ethical. Trey or some liberal Johnathan Turley might recommend...

92 posted on 11/23/2020 10:54:33 AM PST by GOPJ (VOTER FRAUD UNDERMINES AMERICAN DEMOCRACY)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
FOX is a POS!
93 posted on 11/23/2020 10:55:56 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

The news side of Fox is not fair and balanced.

Read their silly running chiron, it’s like watching CNN.


94 posted on 11/23/2020 10:59:28 AM PST by Fledermaus (FIRE BILL BARR AND RECESS APPOINT RIC GRENELL!)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

“even when it’s counterproductive and costly”

Hmmm...didn’t cost me a dime. In fact, i’ve saved upwards of 20k by not having Cable TV..which is 95% crap anyhow. :)


95 posted on 11/23/2020 11:02:46 AM PST by Leep (Save America. Lock down Joe Biden!)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

This pimp has no clue.


96 posted on 11/23/2020 11:56:04 AM PST by Quentin Quarantino
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

PETER ROFF

97 posted on 11/23/2020 11:59:19 AM PST by MarvinStinson
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