Posted on 11/22/2020 7:08:59 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants
Republican judge
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Appointed by Barak Obama.
No certification that occurs before all legal action is complete should be considered invalid.
Roberts will vote with the liberals. That's five liberal votes against four conservative votes.
I still think the courts will not have the last word on this election outcome. There are too many forces arrayed against him. He does better when he controls his own destiny.
So I keep thinking Trump will have to pull the pin on his 2018 Foreign Interference EO and void the elections because of foreign influence, which Sidney Powell is pursuing. Then might this not be decided by military tribunals or the House state legislators instead of the courts?
Otherwise, what was the purpose of the EO and why did he declare a National Emergency at the time he signed it? There's a reason he did that. To declare a National Security threat if the democRATS decided to steal the election using foreign players and locations?
He even tweeted about it again this last summer. People who hate him think he does these things willy-nilly but it's been his history that he always has a reason for tweeting something out. In this case, I think he was setting up the electoral battlefield for the democRATS to take the bait.
Just thinking out loud, that based on Trump's history of laying landmines in his disputes that his opponents don't see and then the enemy walking right into them, that he is dangling these lawsuits out there as a distraction but has other plans behind the scenes.
Trump is a brilliant strategist and tactician and I can't see him just letting this die in the courts at the hands of a bunch of liberal judges. I've got to believe, he's got something else up his sleeve and that he will play that hole card when the time is ripe.
Or I could just be feeling desperate this morning and grasping for straws. This is wearing on me and many others on FR I'm sure.
It reminds me of my thoughts when I was getting within range of the finish line in the marathons I ran when I was younger. So close and yet so far.
One thing the Supremes have to be mindful of is Democrat threats to pack the Court. I don’t think that sits too well with most them (even RBG was against it). No one likes their power diluted.
So the Dems may have stepped on the wrong toes with their untimely threats.
Control of the senate is not yet assured so if the Supremes side with Dems, not only are they condoning fraud, they could also be enabling the diminishment of their own authority.
The Court could weasel out somehow (I give that a 40% probability) but when it comes down to it the main decision will be about Equal Protection. It will be hard for the Court to condone fraud and willful lack of transparency in violation of state law. The consequences of inaction will essentially legitimize nationwide voter fraud, and open up a real can of worms for the country.
Roberts already screwed up with his vote on the PA case that has thrust the election into chaos. He may be inclined to want to correct his last mistake, but we’ll soon see if he has any ethics at all.
Does anyone know how often the Supreme Court agrees to hear a case that was not decided by a lower court but was instead dismissed with prejudice? What are the odds of them taking this one up?
The opportunity for Supreme Court Justices to write a truly monumental , historic opinion that has a dramatic effect on the future of the nation is exceedingly rare. I don’t the justices will pass on that opportunity...if the opportunity comes to them. It needs, however, to be broader than just one state - all of the fraud in every state needs to be brought to the court at the same time, so they can write an all-encompassing decision regarding this election and the method of conducting elections for federal positions.
Nothing else will do. This is it, the court needs to to ignore the likelihood of violence and rule for the ages.
To declare a National Security threat if the democRATS decided to steal the election using foreign players and locations?
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The foreign connection has not received enough attention IMO. If proven, it could be a game changer from the standpoint of the public’s perception of the fraud. Domestic fraud is bad enough on its own but foreign meddling adds a whole new dimension to it. And its much easier to understand than the statistical anomalies with the voting are.
I’m not sure what the legal ramifications are of foreign involvement, if any, but it certainly would serve to add a layer of pressure on the USSC to do something to prevent such overseas interference in the future.
Obviously, the Rats, who put all this massive coordinated fraud together, are the most culpable. But Trump and his GOP stooges have to shoulder a lot of the blame for what happened. I read last week where a number of experts in voter fraud had warned them about what was likely to happen and they were rebuffed with “Don’t worry we know, we got it covered”.
Clearly they were not prepared. When a judge in PA ruled that ballots that arrived after Nov 3, even if the post mark wasn’t clear, could be counted, the republican PA legislator should have stepped in and clarified the statute.
On the night of the elections the Trump team should have had lawyers in every county in PA, MI, WI, GA, ready to file injunctions as soon as observers were not allowed to watch. All counting should have been stopped, even if it took until the next day to resume, until observers were allowed to monitor as the law requires.
When they actually stopped counting in 5 or 6 key states, and the vast majority of poll watchers were sent home, the Trump lawyers should have gotten injunctions to either a) forced counting to resume or b) postponed any counting until observers were back in place. Huge dumps of Biden votes at 4 am would never have happened.
The GOP could have insisted, that given the ownership & origins in Venezuela, their abuse in the past, that no Dominion Voting systems could have been used in any states.
So many things that could have been done before the election and the day of the election that Trump’s team failed to do.
The bottom line, just my opinion, Trump was seen as a liability to the GOP at this point. He was useful in getting them power in 2016, that was all. Another 4 years of the media bashing Trump, another 4 years of his stupid tweets and the GOP would be in shambles, They hope Biden does a lot of his plan & really hurts the country. That way, they can regain congress in 2 years.
The lawyer who went to school with him thought he was a bit of an elitist snob..paraphrasing here.
I think what it says to me is that the lawyers did a shitty job and the Judge let them know it. He didn’t have to in the way that he did..but he did.
If you want to contrast and compare..and I havent bothered to read all of this or the filing by the lawyers in Trumps cases...here is a case back in Sept by the DEMS talking about severability.which is what should have been addressed
http://www.pacourts.us/assets/files/page-1305/file-10010.pdf
Someone here did a good job of pointing out what should be done...dont remember the posters name...and of course, it appears they didnt do it.
This is it, the court needs to to ignore the likelihood of violence and rule for the ages.
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Very well put.
Totally agree that it should be “all-encompassing”. Cast this way it would seem to me to lend great legitimacy to their decision.
Yes he was appointed by Obama in a horse trade deal but he is not an “Obama Judge”
Call him a Toomey Judge if you want.
here is a little bit of history on how they got around the non severability clause
https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/524113-after-election-day-a-battle-over-pennsylvanias-ballots
it really should go to SCOTUS
The end is drawing nigh but Trump looks and acts too serene, knowing it might come to end very soon.
I think he knows something the rest of us aren't privy to.
These are not the lawsuits to be filed by the President’s lawyers, am I wrong? Isn’t this lawsuit brought by the campaign in PA? I don’t believe R. Giuliani’s name is on it.
I hate to admit it but I think you have a point.
All is fair in love and war.
To the victor go the spoils.
Seriously, if Trump supporters were to cheat and win, the courts would be neutered and Democrats would scream with fury.
And to such screaming Democrats we could ask, “Are you now in agreement that Voter ID is necessary?”
hi im sorry i am unsure there are 20+ suits but someone here will know, tell us
Yes, and I was skimming a filing from the Dems in their legal ground game from Sept and it went into depth about that clause and the particular law.
There should be no doubt in anyone’s mind that some “funny business” went on in connection with this election as well as with some in the past.. Regardless of who did what, for the sake of justice & truly fair elections, this has to stop. Who will be the brave souls putting a stop to it? And how soon?
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