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Democrats keep winning the popular vote. That worries them.
The Associated Press ^ | November 14, 2020 | By NICHOLAS RICCARDI

Posted on 11/14/2020 5:11:22 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

Democrats won the popular vote in this year’s presidential election yet again, marking seven out of eight straight presidential elections that the party has reached that milestone.

And, for some Democrats, that’s worrisome.

What alarms many Democrats is a growing gap between their popular vote tallies and their political power. Democrats may be winning over more supporters, but as long as those votes are clustered on the coasts or in cities and suburbs, they won’t deliver the congressional victories the party needs to enact its policies.

“There’s a massive structural challenge to the majority of Americans having any political power anytime soon,” said Rebecca Katz, a liberal Democratic strategist. “It’s a problem.”

Whether it’s a problem — or a necessary check on power — is a point of debate. The founders created a U.S. system of government based partially on geography. Wyoming, with its population of 500,000, has as many senators as California, home to 39 million people. House seats are awarded based on population, but districts can be drawn to dilute the impact of types of voters. The presidency is a won by amassing a majority of electors allocated to states.

“Power is not allocated by the popular vote,” said Simon Rosenberg, a veteran Democratic strategist. “What we have to get better at is not just winning more votes, but winning in more parts of each state, and in more states.”

Still, Republicans’ strong performance in state legislatures makes it likely they can lock in gains during the upcoming once-a-decade gerrymandering, by drawing lines for statehouse and congressional districts that pack voters into districts that favor the GOP. The party’s landslide 2010 win during Obama’s first midterm helped them do that over the past decade.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 11/14/2020 5:11:22 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Winning the popular vote is the direct result of having Africanized the major American cities, the population centers, wherein the slaves are controlled and voting Democrat is a certainty


2 posted on 11/14/2020 5:14:05 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) t Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay My, o. h, my, what a wonderful day)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Is that including all the deceased people who “support” the Democrats?


3 posted on 11/14/2020 5:15:27 AM PST by devere
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Democrats may be winning over more supporters, but as long as those votes are clustered on the coasts or in cities and suburbs, they won’t deliver the congressional victories the party needs to enact its policies.

Dem controlled fraud vote machines in major cities can’t pollute the voting process in the rest of the country, no matter how many votes they manufacture.


4 posted on 11/14/2020 5:15:43 AM PST by Flick Lives (My work's illegal, but at least it's honest. - Capt. Malcolm Reynolds)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

False premise. There is no discrepancy. When you have more people in a state, you get more congressional districts and more representatives.


5 posted on 11/14/2020 5:17:06 AM PST by MrChips ("To wisdom belongs the apprehension of eternal things." - St. Augustine I donÂ’t think we need one)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Call me crazy, but I reject the premise. I think the Dems numbers have been artificially inflated for years, and no one has ever really called them on it. Take this most recent election, do I believe that 80 million unique registered voters actually voted for Joe Biden? I do not.


6 posted on 11/14/2020 5:17:17 AM PST by FreedomVsControl
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Still, Republicans’ strong performance in state legislatures makes it likely they can lock in gains during the upcoming once-a-decade gerrymandering, by drawing lines for statehouse and congressional districts that pack voters into districts that favor the GOP.

More propagandistic framing. When it is Republicans redrawing district boundaries, it’s “gerrymandering”, when Dems do it it’s “redistricting”.


7 posted on 11/14/2020 5:17:57 AM PST by Flick Lives (My work's illegal, but at least it's honest. - Capt. Malcolm Reynolds)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

No they didn’t.


8 posted on 11/14/2020 5:18:33 AM PST by AFB-XYZ (Option 1 -- stand up. Option 2 -- bend over.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
After all of the fraud that has been exposed, I see no reason to believe this.

This is one reason why we have the electoral college, to prevent states from stealing elections with voter fraud. Praying that it works this time.

9 posted on 11/14/2020 5:18:36 AM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Prayers for our country and President Trump)
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To: bert
Interestingly, it has nothing to do with “Africanized” cities. Urbanization cuts across all racial/ethnic demographic lines ... and WHITE people living in cities are some of the dumbest people I’ve ever met. Ilhan Omar, for example, represents a district where two-thirds of the voters are white ... and yet you’d think it was a province of Somalia the way it’s described here on FR.

Urban living promotes laziness and ignorance ... which is why urban voters of all races consistently vote for Democrats.

10 posted on 11/14/2020 5:20:26 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("There's somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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To: bert

that plus fraud.


11 posted on 11/14/2020 5:21:48 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Are they using the widespread fraudulent numbers? No one but the media is going to believe that the party who lost house seats and gained zero senate seats received more votes for Biden

These articles could point out that trump gained 10 millio votes over his 2016 tally.


12 posted on 11/14/2020 5:22:50 AM PST by stanne
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13 posted on 11/14/2020 5:23:02 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Democrats may be winning over more supporters, but as long as those votes are clustered on the coasts or in cities and suburbs, they won’t deliver the congressional victories the party needs to enact its policies.

Here's where the Democrats' record of failure in governance helps them spread the disease of liberalism. People who vote Democrat on the coasts or in cities and suburbs eventually have to flee the consequences of their votes. They move to areas which vote Republican, such as Texas. And they continue to vote Democrat, learning nothing from past experience and destroying the communities they move to.

California was Reagan Country in the '70s and '80s, when I was a kid. Then the liberals who voted Democrat back east fled their failing Democrat votes and moved here in droves, drawn by the tech boom and the good weather. Now California is a place I can't wait to get the hell out of.
14 posted on 11/14/2020 5:23:47 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
As usual, the AP is spewing out far left, Dem talking point garbage.
There are too many holes in this idiotic piece to even bother with.
Suffice to say it's the Dems who are getting far more power than their real share of the votes, not the fraudulent votes they manufacture in places like Philadelphia.
15 posted on 11/14/2020 5:24:56 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: bert

Given the vast amount of vote manipulation involved in this election it is quite possible, even likely, that DJT won an absolute majority of the popular vote. the general pickup of Republicans in the down ballot offices is an indication of that. The total real and legal vote was probably somewhat less than the reported vote as perhaps as much as 5 or 6% of the vote was fabricated.


16 posted on 11/14/2020 5:25:48 AM PST by arthurus (covfefe Q)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
This is one reason why we have the electoral college, to prevent states from stealing elections with voter fraud.

I think the best way to understand the brilliance of the Founding Fathers in creating the Electoral College is to look at a county by county voting map and remember that the Founding Fathers wanted a President who had widespread support, not narrow support from only a few areas.

17 posted on 11/14/2020 5:26:55 AM PST by libertylover (Election 2020: Make America Great Again or Burn it to the Ground. Choose one. Voter fraud is treason)
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To: Alberta's Child

Yes. When I was single, I lived in cities. Nearly all the people I encountered, Black or White, were Leftists. And Obama was telling us that we needed to move back to the cities. No way! DeBlasio has shown the rot that is in control of the cities. Our Founding Fathers knew what they were doing when they wrote the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.


18 posted on 11/14/2020 5:30:00 AM PST by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Actually, they lose the popular vote too, that is the real reason that scares them. They only win the popular by massive cheating.


19 posted on 11/14/2020 5:32:08 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

People bunched together in groups are easy to influence and control.
Get outside of that, and you begin to think for yourself. See for yourself. Find out there are ways to do things outside of the government way.
Leftists love cities for that reason.


20 posted on 11/14/2020 5:32:51 AM PST by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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