Wisconsin Clerks May Have Unlawfully Altered Thousands of Absentee Ballots

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[Bigtigermike]

County and municipal clerks and poll workers across Wisconsin may have unlawfully altered witness statements on thousands of mail-in ballots across the state, "The Dan O'Donnell Show" has learned.

Wisconsin Statute 6.86 provides that an absentee ballot must be signed by a witness, who is also required to list his or her address. If a witness address is not listed, then the ballot is considered invalid and must be returned to the voter to have the witness correct.

Instead, multiple sources tell "The Dan O'Donnell Show," municipal clerks and vote counters across the state simply filled out witness signatures themselves. Acting on false and unlawful advice from the Wisconsin Elections Commission (WEC), these clerks may have inadvertently invalidated thousands of absentee votes.

The WEC sent uniform instructions to voters with their mail-in ballots that informed them that "your witness must sign and provide their full address (street number, street name, city) in the Certification of Witness section" and warned that "if any of the required information above is missing, your ballot will not be counted."

However, on October 19th, the WEC sent instructions to clerks that they can simply fill in the witness address themselves so that the ballot would not be invalidated.

"Please note that the clerk should attempt to resolve any missing witness address information prior to Election Day if possible, and this can be done through reliable information (personal knowledge, voter registration information, through a phone call with the voter or witness)," WEC wrote. "The witness does not need to appear to add a missing address."

[zaxtres]

Trump victory may need that miracle.

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We are way past miracles. We need divine intervention. Sadly that won’t happen because the United States has given up on the Divine long ago. If you fail to see this then you are blind to declining populations in churches. Socialism is the new religion of today’s youth and it will be marxism not too far ff in the future. Carl is dancing in his grave,

[goodnesswins]

Wouldn’t SCOTUS only get involved after lower court rulings? Have to prove fraud in lower court first? But, the REMEDY is the issue...and where that comes from, like you, I don’t know. I did read somewhere that if one state is ordered to “revote”...ALL states then have to...Or, I could have misunderstood. Talk about a muddy issue...

[dfwgator]

Funny how nothing like this happened in Ohio.

[Political Junkie Too]

What other solution is there if it's determined based on a preponderance of the evidence that the fraud and so called 'irregularities' were enough to alter the outcome, yet the legit ballots can't be separated out from the contaminated ballots?

Decertify the election and let the legislature exercise its Article II Section 1 power to select the new method of choosing electors, namely by direct appointment from the legislature itself.

The alternative is to exercise the 14th amendment's Section 2 penalty to strip the state of its House representation in proportion to the amount of fraudulent votes.

-PJ

[Repeal 16-17]

Can the SCOTUS demand a recount? Throw out votes?

My thought is that the only real remedy would be to void all main-in ballots (not to be confused with absentee ballots) on the ground that the governors violated Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 by mailing out ballots without their respective State legislatures' consent. That would give President Trump the win.

[Secret Agent Man]

not true

we’ve had problems for a long time

and fights just to even get voter id implemented

same day crap still exists

amd wherever dems control the voting process those laws have meant jack shiite

the very places we always have problems

dane county, milwaukee county, racine and kenosha county

lacrosse area and a few others

[Political Junkie Too]

I would say that a legislature or candidate would file suit to have the certification of the election revoked on the grounds of fraud.

The candidate would have standing because of being harmed by the fraud. The legislature would have standing because Article II Section 1 gives them the authority to make election law, and the laws they put in place to protect the election were changed by administrator and the courts, against the wishes of the legislature.

If the court refuses to decertify the election, then they can appeal to the state supreme court, and then the federal courts. When it gets to SCOTUS, the issue would be whether the lower courts were right to deny revoking the certification.

Then comes what SCOTUS could do about it. They would be naturally inclined to return the matter to a lower court to get it right, or if this is an emergency appeal, they might overrule the lower court and order the election to be decertified and turn it back to the legislature for the remedy.

I'm not a lawyer, but that would be my guess.

-PJ

[dp0622]

WTH???? How do you know all that??

And it was easy to understand too :)

It makes the picture much clearer for me. thanks

We need to put pressure the legislatures in those states because I’m assuming this is something kind of drastic and they will be hesitant to do it.

We need to bring a lot of pressure

[LeoTDB69]

This sounds similar to PA where the PA Supreme’s altered law which is the jurisprudence of the legislature.

[pollywog]

Another sin brought to the LIGHT.... GO TRUMP GO!!

[Political Junkie Too]

Just a guess. I'm no expert on the matter.

-PJ

[Trump Girl Kit Cat]

I find it QUITE AMAZING that in Ohio Trump won 53% to Joe 45% how on the hell could there be that much of a difference when these state are very much like each other what voting machines does Ohio have???

[teeman8r]

Sadly, I am starting to lean to that pessimism...

But evidence will need to be overwhelming and quick.

And even then, the spine of republicans must be girdled.

[timestax]

ping

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

On an aggregrate level Wisconsin’s elections are pretty clean. You had Milwaukee County that cheated Scott Walker in 2018 and now Trump in 2020. That’s going to get cleaned up now because everything is going to come to light next week when Trump and Rudy start dropping bombs.

[dp0622]

are you kidding?

reads like it was copied from an encyclopedia :)

thanks again

[The_Media_never_lie]

If it is unverifiable by design, and can’t be unraveled, it must be revoted.

[Political Junkie Too]

Thanks.

-PJ

[MortMan]

Void the damned election, with a high volume shout out to those responsible.

[dp0622]

Come on man. All the counting stopped right after they knew florida was gone, in a big way.

They didn’t call each other at the last minute. It was a contingency plan, possibly.

But you’re Absolutely right.

It’s ABSURD that the bellwether state goes for Trump by 8 percent margin!!!

And 3 percent in Florida? I thought he was gonna win by .5 percent.

It’s a coup. There’s no other word for it. With the media’s backing.

There are tough times ahead. May be very tough.