Posted on 11/01/2020 7:02:56 PM PST by dynachrome
In what would be a first in the U.S., possession of small amounts of heroin, cocaine, LSD and other hard drugs could be decriminalized in Oregon under a ballot measure that voters are deciding on in Tuesday’s election.
Instead of being arrested, going to trial and facing possible jail time, the users would have the option of paying $100 fines or attending new, free addiction recovery centers.
The centers would be funded by tax revenue from retail marijuana sales in the state that was the country's first to decriminalize marijuana possession.
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narcan....there’s the rub...we the tax payers are paying for these addicts to be narcanned when they od....we all have to look out for these druggies and now we are supposed to save them time and again...
Watching candles drip...
Robbery has a victim, and has always been against the law, regardless of what motivates it.
And note that alcohol addicts can afford their drug without robbing because its regulated legality allows the market to make it cheap.
Wow. And just when I thought such a beautiful state couldn’t get any worse.
“Welcome to my nightmare!” as Alice Cooper would say.
I find this entire movement of ‘decriminalizing’ drugs to be extraordinarily interesting. All of these drugs are illegal at the federal level, but not, apparently, from a state level.
Personally, I think the entire issue should have been a state-by-state one in the first place.
However, it does bring up an interesting question. Can a locality or state make fully automatic weapons and suppressors legal (without having to pay the $200 tax and fulfilling the insane paperwork requirements) as well?
As a guy who retired to southern Oregon 15 years ago, I can tell you right now that what destroyed the entire rural part of the state was the spotted owl. We had a thriving timber industry that supported a lot of working families. The feds shut it down over the stupid bird, and then a few years back decided that the thing driving the spotted owl to extinction was the barred owl and not logging.
1. Despite the new science they never re-opened the timber cutting.
2. If I showed you a spotted owl and a barred owl you would not be able to tell them apart except that the barred owl is slightly bigger and tends to win fights between them.
3. The loss of income and purpose in their lives made a lot of the loggers into addicts.
HEY! I want some! Of everything!
(J/K)
IF it passes, no one will notice any change in Oregon.
The proposal is not to decriminalize burglary, theft, nor robbery. Some people might well make their money legitimately and then spend it on drugs.
Let’s put up the deaths due to alcohol, tobacco, and prescription opioids, and see how the problems of illegal drugs compare.
“Portugal’s 2000 decriminalization brought no surge in drug use. Drug deaths fell while the number of people treated for drug addiction in the country rose 20% from 2001 to 2008 and then stabilized”
Reality doesn’t matter.
They have their imaginations, and they use them to justify the federal government eviscerating our Bill of Rights in a Sisyphean ‘war on drugs’.
Depending on your POV, the addict themselves, their families, people who may get in their way when they need a fix.
Do you think drug use, possession etc should be totally decriminalized? I am interested in knowing. Is there a limit or should it just be like alcohol? Topics such as these put me in a quandary.
I don’t like drugs. I just don’t. Don’t care much for alcohol either. lol I have seen the results of someone being addicted. I have seen what lengths they go to in order to buy drugs. I have seen their behavior and the personality changes. It was so sad. Some have survived and come back from that darkness. Others were not so lucky. Some end up in jail. Some in rehab and some stay and do whatever it takes to continue using. And, others die.
So, what do you think? Any consequences? Minor ones? I know you cannot force rehab on anyone. It doesn’t work that way. So, other programs? Thank you for your input.
I’ve often wondered why Portland is put up as some Shangri-La. All anyone has to do is watch a Vice episode and see that the place is a sh*thole. Of course, there are the affluent, UBER WHITE enclaves in the city, where none of the drugs and riots go on, but from what I watched the place sucks. And then there’s their attempt at mass transit that no one uses. One day, hopefully, the people of the Left will realize that their masters are doing nothing more than laundering taxpayer money. Not to say folks on the Right don’t do the same thing, one of the reasons the RINOs hate the President so much, but the Left seems to have perfected it. From the local level all the way to the top.
L8r
Well, whenever drug legalization is discussed around here, we always have someone give the “libertarian” view, that drugs should be legal because government has no business telling us whether we should use any substance.
And then the 10th amendment constitutional arguments are presented, where someone will say this subject is not the business of the federal government, and should only be addressed by state governments.
And then there are arguments about whether marijuana is really a gateway drug, and discussions about whether marijuana or any other particular drug, is more dangerous than fully legal alcoholic beverages.
So then it comes back to , who decides if a drug is dangerous enough to ban it or punish users, how serious penalties should be, and which level of government should be dealing with such regulations in the first place.
Good. All the homeless from California will head up there and crap all over their sidewalks.
Post of the day! Great idea!
I was East of Portland about 8-9 months ago. Couldn’t wait to get out of there. Felt like I should have brought my passport, looked and felt like a 3 world nation.
sooo- take legal pain relievers away from patients who can’t move without it, can’t function with any real sense of normalcy without it due to pain- but by golly go ahead and legalize hard drugs in some state?
If they do, they may see the largest exodus ever to occur in a state.
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