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Oregon could become 1st US state to decriminalize hard drugs
ABC ^ | 10-30-20 | ANDREW SELSKY

Posted on 11/01/2020 7:02:56 PM PST by dynachrome

In what would be a first in the U.S., possession of small amounts of heroin, cocaine, LSD and other hard drugs could be decriminalized in Oregon under a ballot measure that voters are deciding on in Tuesday’s election.

Instead of being arrested, going to trial and facing possible jail time, the users would have the option of paying $100 fines or attending new, free addiction recovery centers.

The centers would be funded by tax revenue from retail marijuana sales in the state that was the country's first to decriminalize marijuana possession.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: 2020election; antifa; blm; cocaine; crapholestate; dopersrights; heroin; liberaltarians; libertarians; losertarians; lsd; medicalmarijuana; medicinalcocaine; medicinalheroin; medicinallsd; nannystate; oregon; psychoticreaction; wod
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To: dynachrome

Oregon, the next Venezuela.


21 posted on 11/01/2020 7:27:48 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: dynachrome

They’ve certainly lent the distinct impression of decriminalizing hard rioting and hard vandalism!


22 posted on 11/01/2020 7:33:04 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: dynachrome

This is great news. It gets all the junkies to move to Oregon. The other 56 states will be druggie-free!


23 posted on 11/01/2020 7:36:26 PM PST by Veggie Todd (Religion. It's like a History class. Without the facts.)
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To: tinyowl
Make rape and murder misdemeanors

Who is the victim of drug use?

24 posted on 11/01/2020 7:36:27 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: dynachrome

I would give my state’s drug addicts 1-way tickets to Portland.


25 posted on 11/01/2020 7:36:53 PM PST by PGR88
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To: dynachrome

Oregon has had a serious drug problem for decades.
Making them even more available is going to destroy the state


26 posted on 11/01/2020 7:37:17 PM PST by Zathras
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To: PLMerite
“...new, free addiction recovery centers.”

There’s that magic four-letter f-bomb again.

No less free than a stretch in jail.

27 posted on 11/01/2020 7:38:41 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: BipolarBob

Gateway to the grave.
The most honest reporting on 60 Min was when they visited Amsterdam 10 years apart.
Everyone of the Heroin users they interviewed were all dead after 10 years.
It shocked even 60 Min.


28 posted on 11/01/2020 7:40:02 PM PST by Zathras
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To: dynachrome
When I was working we went to overdoses of illegal drugs nearly every day. When some stronger than normal stuff started going around it was sometimes several times a day. The police in Washington hardly ever came with us and almost no one was arrested anyway. On the Western side of the mountains enforcement against users has been basically nonexistent for years. So this is a nearly meaningless piece of legislation for Western Oregon... It really amounts to the Western side of the state trying to impose their "tollerant" liberal values on the law abiding Eastern side of the state.
29 posted on 11/01/2020 7:40:42 PM PST by fireman15
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To: dynachrome

Worth noting from the article:

“Portugal’s 2000 decriminalization brought no surge in drug use. Drug deaths fell while the number of people treated for drug addiction in the country rose 20% from 2001 to 2008 and then stabilized”


30 posted on 11/01/2020 7:41:25 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: dynachrome

Never mentions Soros, who is the source of all this.


31 posted on 11/01/2020 7:41:33 PM PST by MarvinStinson
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To: BipolarBob

#15. Heroin is a “gateway” drug, for U.S. money to go to its Red Chinese producers, shippers, transporters in the US and from US drug dealers they sell it to.

Now, selling heroin/cocaine etc. is by itself a major felony, I don’t know if “buying” as a “user” is a felony or anything illegal. When someone buys it, then it becomes theirs and the crime is “possession”.

It would be interesting to know if there is a law for this intermediary step in the drug trafficking chain re buying this stuff.

My position would be that anyone with small amounts of felony drugs in their possession for personal use, should be given only two choices - go into a treatment plan/center or go to jail and go “cold turkey”.

We’ve got to save those lives of low-level users and try our best to return them as productive citizens to society. Some we will not be able to save. That’s why dealers can and should where possible, be charged with selling drugs that lead to a death as a major “felony”, i.e. “accessory before the fact (death)”, i.e. “voluntary manslaughter”, 10 years, no parole..


32 posted on 11/01/2020 7:41:51 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: NobleFree
"Who is the victim of drug use?"

Many.

On pure libertarian theoretical grounds I get it - I'm not new to the argument, but it doesn't work practically, in the real world. An we live in a real, not theoretical world.

It's a little like 'Marxism is great on paper.'

But if you want to carve out a little town and wall it off, hey, go for it. If you COULD keep it yourself, which you can't, I'd say hey, go for it.

33 posted on 11/01/2020 7:43:27 PM PST by tinyowl (A is A)
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To: dynachrome

Why not? Everything in Oregon is running perfectly.


34 posted on 11/01/2020 7:43:49 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: dynachrome

All that means is that state and local cops won’t arrest you.The possession of even microscopic quantities of certain drugs...including marijuana,cocaine (in all its forms),morphine (in all its forms),meth,speed...is still a Federal offense.Everywhere.All 50 states.


35 posted on 11/01/2020 7:43:58 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (BLM Stands For "Bidens Loot Millions"!)
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To: tinyowl
Who is the victim of drug use?"

Many.

Such as? Any class of persons not also victims of the use of the drug alcohol?

36 posted on 11/01/2020 7:48:28 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Karliner
I worked for years in a big city ER.I started as a kid...and my first few months there were on the night shift (11PM-7AM).On one of my first nights there a heroin OD came in...stone dead. They gave him Narcan and within 5 minutes of his arrival he was ripping out his IVs and leaving.I remember it almost 50 years later.
37 posted on 11/01/2020 7:48:35 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (BLM Stands For "Bidens Loot Millions"!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Should we criminalize heroin or Narcan? It seems like the problem would be self healing if we . . . . just let them lie down and take it easy.


38 posted on 11/01/2020 7:51:02 PM PST by BipolarBob (Rome wasn't built in a day. All Hail the night shift!)
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To: dynachrome

It was never the responsibility of the federal government in the first place.


39 posted on 11/01/2020 7:55:35 PM PST by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: NobleFree

Who is the victim of drug use?


Where do you think they get the money for the drugs?


40 posted on 11/01/2020 7:56:39 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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