Oregon could become 1st US state to decriminalize hard drugs

ABC ^ | 10-30-20 | ANDREW SELSKY

[EinNYC]

Oregon... not surprising. At least most of the junkies will be in one place.

The way those Oregon idiots act--letting mobs murder, loot, burn down homes and businesses at will--you'd think they're ALREADY all stoned on heroin. Making it legal won't make an atom of difference. Chronic hard left liberalism has the same destructive effect on the brain as heroin, meth, or fentanyl. Look at the jackasses they elected as their mayors and governor. They are already gone. Too bad they are occupying a pretty piece of land. But with them as neighbors, it isn't worth spit.

[Bob434]

[[Who is the victim of drug use? ]]

The kids of addicts-

[centermass_socrates]

Such a beautiful state.... turned into poo.

[nickcarraway]

You guys are crazy. Why would Hunter Biden have to move there? He already doesn’t get charged with using those drugs in other states? Has he ever been arrested for drugs? He can get away with it, he doesn’t need to move to Oregon.

[jimtorr]

I voted no.

[gundog]

Certainly a factor. The timber companies finally took some of the blame when they admitted that mechanization took over a lot of jobs. Better to have loggers pissed at birds and enviros than them.

[5th MEB]

Make all drugs PURE and sell them at a discounted price at the corner store, no emergency medical services for OD’s, in 6 months the problem will be solved.

[deek69]

I thought it already was /s

[gundog]

I get your libertarian stance on this issue. As to victims, though, I asssure you that there are many. Last year, I spent enough time around the homeless at a local fishing hole that I got to know quite a few. There was a couple that showed up one day from South Dakota, I think. Singles and couples would turn up all the time. These two were bright and social...she was reading an Alex Haley novel.. everyone just hangs out, smoking weed...it’s a public park, mind you. There’s occasional meth use...not as open as the weed, but it’s there. At some point, 3 or 4 of the tweekers conspired to give this girl a hot-shot. It happens to some of the people around there. Anyway, a year later, she’s pretty much a zombie, doing whatever to get high. Her mind is f*cked.

Soon the rain will hit, and the mushrooms will be growing for free. The only guy really industrious enough to pick them there last year has moved on, but someone might pick up the slack.

[CurlyDave]

Certainly a factor. The timber companies finally took some of the blame when they admitted that mechanization took over a lot of jobs. Better to have loggers pissed at birds and enviros than them.

How does that explain the fact that most of the sawmills have closed down, the equipment has been sold and shipped to other countries where it is re-assembled and is profitable.

That is not a problem of mechanization taking jobs, that is a problem of no feedstock (logs) leading to loss of work.

[varyouga]

Fake news. Drug treatment can’t work. Best stick to the tried and true method: Place addicts in a cage with violent criminals. Then ban them from ever getting a real job. That’ll learn ‘em...

[gundog]

Thanks. Portland distributes them around the State...many to my area.

[gundog]

Make sure the little town has a WalWart. The druggies steak there with impunity.

[ozaukeemom]

Thank you.
You had just asked who the victims are of the drug users. I realize they also apply to other types of addiction.
I think some concerns are the rapidity of addiction to certain types of intoxicants ie; heroin, crack and, to a certain extent, meth. Alcoholism tends to be a longer process. Not any less dangerous but in a different form.
Thank you for responding!
This is a complicated topic and one not easily controlled or solved or whatever.
Honestly, I could not care much less what someone does in the privacy of their home or in their life as long as it does not negatively affect others. Wanna do some coke and dance the night away, go for it. Want to smoke some pot and empty the refrigerator, cool. Get blasted on vodka, well, make sure you have some water for when you are hungover.
In my opinion, taxpayers paying for rehab, narcan, etc are a negative affect. Not feeding your children because you need dope? That is a negative affect. That said, I have no clue how to handle it! jmho

[Karliner]

That stuff is a life saver. Crimeny sakes Noc shift in a big city ER? That’s hard core.!

[Dr. Sivana]

"I know where I'm moving to!"

~Hunter Biden

Why should he bother. The man couldn't get thrown in jail if he tried. That's a fact.

[Dr. Sivana]

How about steroids. Pot good, steroids bad ?

Or penicillin, or hydrochloroquin (sp)?

[gundog]

You ever watch a little vehicle on tracks, operated by one man, go up to a tree, grab it, saw it, lay it down, and move on to the next tree? Or sit on a landing watching the debarker? The industry changed when they started raising trees to 37-40 years and harvesting. There’s actually quite a lot of logging going on. Not on National Forest land, but lots of other places. The enviros wanted the old growth logging stopped, primarily. I think the goal was/is, as always, to cripple the US. Lots of lumber being imported from Canada.
There’s a cut they did on Hwy. 42 a couple of years ago. I think my brother probably planted some of it. When they were done, I could see from the road where a smallish tree from the cut had fallen across the top of a stump from the previous cutting, or maybe the one before that. The stump was enormous. The recently harvested tree looked like a wilted carrot laying across it.

[nathanbedford]

almost no one was arrested anyway. On the Western side of the mountains enforcement against users has been basically nonexistent for years. So this is a nearly meaningless piece of legislation for Western Oregon... It really amounts to the Western side of the state trying to impose their "tollerant" liberal values on the law abiding Eastern side of the state.

Oregon's plan might be wrongfooted, it might be intentionally limited in scope to gain some political acceptance, it might fail for being one state surrounded by states with criminal sanctions but, hallelujah, the wall is at last being breached!

Finally the law is following the good sense of its citizens, the citizens west of the mountains who made ignoring the law the only rational attitude. The common sense of the citizens of Western Oregon have simply recognized the irrefutable fact that the war on drugs is lost, that the game is not worth the candle. Not even the barrier of the Rocky Mountains can hold back the verdict of common sense.

If we conservatives want to crack Oregon, if we believe in liberty, we would be well advised to get on board now.

[Newbomb Turk]

Exactly. Why can’t I but and pharmaceutical thing I want. I could in Kuwait