State court allows spy operations by police using license plate readers

World Net Daily ^ | 24-Oct-2020 | WND Staff

[abb]

I don’t think so. It’s called stalking, and government is the last entity I want stalking me. The antidote is video recording everything public officials (cops, judges, politicians, etc) do 24/7. If you ever watch 1st Amendment audit videos, you see they don’t like it one damn bit.

[BOBWADE]

Perhaps the federal government could address this with a privacy bill regarding the storage in this information. I know there’s probably fear that the Socialist left local governments could use this to schedule their gun confiscation warrants around a person’s not being at home.

[exnavy]

I understand the legal aspect of this, the potential for government abuse is great. We may need a constitutional ammendment. Because i am not a public official, movie star, or a notable individual in any way. My public petsona is nonextant. Therefore, my expectation of privacy is paramount and supercedes the government need for database.

[freedumb2003]

Your best bet is hope masks are required forever.

My house bristles with exterior cameras. Almost everyone has a Ring type doorbell camera. There are so many private cameras that even curtailing government ones would be pointless and meaningless.

[freedumb2003]

>>Or required to have a drivers license to drive their wagons or carriages.<<

Common rules were not needed for them. The chances of 2 colliding was negligible and the damage done next to zero.

You want to drive with millions of people in 1+ ton vehicles capable of speeds of over 100 MPH just driving with no stop signs or lights, lanes, alcohol intake restrictions, etc?

Not me, thanks. Unless I own and drive a Sherman tank (why not, with no laws I can be armed, right?)

[palmer]

It's a building block of anarchy-tyranny. You can be sure that drug runners with stolen plates are exempt while granny with a late tax payment will be pulled over. The surveillance state leads quite easily to the social control and social credit state. All the Karens will love that everyone is tracked in case they might have the Wuhan, and of course that won't go away when the "crisis" goes away.

[palmer]

My house bristles with exterior cameras

I'm sorry that you live in a shithole.

[jimfr]

My two sisters were in a stagecoach accident in which people were injured. ReEad historical newspapers and you will find how frequent they were. The problem today is we want security more than freedom.

[Alberta's Child]

I may be wrong about this, but I’m pretty sure anti-stalking laws are predicated on one or both of the following: (1) the stalking activity involves private property (like showing up at someone’s workplace), and/or (2) evidence of malicious intent.

I trust government less than anyone, but I also understand the implied risk of being out in public.

[T Ruth]

A person who knows where you live could park on the street outside your house, follow you wherever you go, and record every place you go — and it’s all perfectly legal.

In some states, this would violate anti-stalking laws.

[P.O.E.]

Cellphones have been archiving location tracking for years now.

[Alberta's Child]

The problem today is we want security more than freedom.

I see it differently. In many aspects of our lives, we want order more than chaos.

Go watch some video clips of traffic operations in sh!t-holes like India or Latin America and let me know how much you want that kind of “freedom.”

[bert]

If you drive on public roads there is no right to claim privacy

Finding bad guys is the goal and worthwhile

Unless you are criminal, there is no reason for concern

[abb]

I can choose whether or not to use/carry a cellphone. Furthermore, The Machine has to get a search warrant to access phones.

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-supreme-court/16-402.html
CARPENTER v. UNITED STATES

With license plate tracking, the data go directly to government databases.

[Eleutheria5]

If you live out in the boonies, it’s possible to stay under the radar and enjoy privacy to your heart’s content. In the big city, in an apartment complex, you can’t even argue with your spouse without the next door neighbors learning more than you want them to.

[exnavy]

I do not wear masks, or black hats. I am a good guy.

[exnavy]

That is exactly what the german people were told in 1938.

[bert]

Do you fear exposure of your criminality?

[P.O.E.]

You can choose to not drive a car, too.

All that aside - the questions is what are the rules, and who makes them? And how come the rulemakers always seem to exempt themselves somehow - de facto or de jure.

[BobL]

“If you live out in the boonies, it’s possible to stay under the radar and enjoy privacy to your heart’s content. In the big city, in an apartment complex, you can’t even argue with your spouse without the next door neighbors learning more than you want them to.”

For the second part, definitely. For the first part, your privacy effectively ends at the property line, if government can set up license plate cameras and record that information.