Posted on 10/08/2020 7:02:25 AM PDT by SJackson
When a country's leader is in deperate need of a history lesson.
Erdogan addressed the opening of the Turkish Parliament on October 1 with a ringing declaration that Jerusalem Has Been Our City For Thousands of Years. The our in our city seemed to refer now to the Turks, and now to the Palestinian people. The story is here.
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan on Thursday implied that Jerusalem belongs to Turkey, referring to the Ottoman Empires control over the city for much of the modern era.
In this city that we had to leave in tears during the First World War, it is still possible to come across traces of the Ottoman resistance. So Jerusalem is our city, a city from us, he told Turkish lawmakers during a major policy speech in Ankara. Our first qibla [direction of prayer in Islam] al-Aqsa and the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem are the symbolic mosques of our faith. In addition, this city is home to the holy places of Christianity and Judaism.
The Turks were the colonial masters of Jerusalem for 400 years, from 1516 to 1917, ruling over Muslim Arabs, Jews, and Christians too. If those 400 years of rule means that Jerusalem is our [Turkish] city, then what should we say about Istanbul, which as Constantinople was for more than a thousand years the richest and most important city in Christendom? Jerusalem has been lived in continuously by Jews for the last 3500 years; the archaeological evidence of that Jewish presence in the city has been found at thousands of sites ancient synagogues, homes, tombstones, wine-presses, oil lamps, pottery much of it with Hebrew inscriptions, with more such evidence being uncovered by archaeologists every year. Does President Erdogan expect the Western world to overlook all that? When Jerusalem was the first qibla, for just a few years before 624 A.D., when Muhammad replaced it with Mecca, Jews had already been living in Jerusalem for more than 2000 years.
The Ottoman Empire ruled over Jerusalem from 1516 to 1917. Modern Turkey, its successor state, has long stressed its enduring connection to the holy city, regularly condemning Israels alleged efforts to judaize it and the US administrations December 2017 recognition of it as Israels capital. Jerusalem has been the capital of Israel since the countrys founding, and the Jewish people have thousands of years of history in the city, backed up by extensive archaeological finds.
During a lengthy speech at the opening of the Turkish parliaments new legislative session, Erdoğan spent several minutes lamenting the fate of Jerusalem and the Palestinians plight.
Another crisis that our country and our nation carefully follow is the oppression of Israel against the Palestinians and the indifferent practices that disregard the privacy [sic] of Jerusalem, he said toward the end of his address.
The issue of Jerusalem is not an ordinary geopolitical problem for us. First of all, the current physical appearance of the Old City, which is the heart of Jerusalem, was built by Suleiman the Magnificent, with its walls, bazaar, and many buildings. Our ancestors showed their respect for centuries by keeping this city in high esteem.
It was not Suleiman the Magnificent, but the Jews of Jerusalem who built much of the Old City, including the Jewish Quarter with its 37 synagogues, all but two of which were dynamited by the Jordanians between 1949 and 1967. It was not Suleiman the Magnificent who built the First or Second Temples, including the Western Wall that is all that remains of the latter, but the Jews. It was not Suleiman the Magnificent, nor any Turkish ruler, who established the venerable Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives that is 3,000 years old, and contains 150,000 Jewish graves. Suleiman did build the current walls of the Old City, and many of its gates, from 1535 to 1542, but what is within those walls was built by Jews cisterns, aqueducts, mikvahs as well as by Turks. Christians, too, built important sites, such as the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in 335 A.D., the Tomb of the Virgin Mary, the Cenacle, and many other buildings of note in Jerusalem. These have made little impression on Erdogan. After discussing the Dome of the Rock and the Al-Aqsa Mosque and other Muslim sites, Erdogan says, in his sole reference to a non-Muslim presence in Jerusalem, that In addition, this city is home to the holy places of Christianity and Judaism.
The Palestinian people have been living in Jerusalem for thousands of years, but they were occupied and had their rights violated, the Turkish leader went on.
If the Palestinian people have been living in Jerusalem for thousands of years, where is there a single scrap of archeological evidence of their presence? Any sign of a distinctively Palestinian home or house of worship, or pottery shards, or coins, or mosaics, or glassware, or oil lamps, or scraps of writing? And what was the language of those Palestinians for those thousands of years before the Arabs, and their language, arrived? What was the religion of those Palestinians who have in Erdogans fantastical tale been living in Jerusalem for thousands of years? It couldnt have been Islam, which only began in Mecca with Muhammad being visited by the angel Gabriel in about 610 A.D., and then preaching this new faith starting in 613 A.D. We need Erdogan to tell us what religion they had before the mid-7th century, what language they spoke, and why there is no physical evidence of their existence, though there are thousands of Jewish sites and artifacts that attest to the presence of the Jewish people, the Jewish religion, the Hebrew language, in Jerusalem.
And when were the Palestinian people in Jerusalem occupied? Has it only been since the modern state of Israel took possession of the Old City after the Six-Day War? Werent the Palestinian people in Jerusalem also occupied by the Turks, from 1516 to 1917? Or dont the Turks count as occupiers, because they are fellow Muslims? A great many Arabs, still resenting how the Ottoman Turks mistreated their ancestors for centuries, would beg to differ.
Some of us might want to bring up another embarrassing fact about those Palestinians. Why are the Palestinian people nowhere mentioned by any of the Muslim chroniclers and travelers? Why do we find no mention of them in the extensive state records of the Ottoman rulers and administrators of the Empire, who held Jerusalem from 1516 to 1917?
And lets bring the story of the Palestinian people up to date. Why do none of the Arab or Turkish rulers, diplomats, writers, and journalists ever mention the Palestinian people until after the Six-Day War, when it became important for the Arabs, having failed militarily, to wage a propaganda campaign against Israel that would force the Jewish state to be squeezed back within the 1949 armistice lines? With the help of Soviet advisors, the Arabs began a campaign that focused on this newly invented Palestinian people. Only thus could the Arab gang-up on Israel be presented to the world as a conflict between two tiny peoples, each struggling for its homeland.
At this point it is de rigueur to quote Zuheir Mohsen, the Palestinian leader of the terror group As Saiqa, and I wont break with tradition. In an interview he gave to the Dutch newspaper Trouw in 1970, Mohsen declared what should be an obvious truth:
The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct Palestinian people to oppose Zionism.
Tayyip, the favor of your reply is requested.
Paging Bibi...White telephone, please.
Everything the Palestinians (who didn't exist prior to 1948) claim as their own belonged to others or were built/made by others. I've not seen or heard of a coin depicting a Palestinian king.
Jews have only one holy site and that's where the Temple was; muzzies have several.
English translation of the word Erdogan: egotistical, bombastic blithering a-hole.
So, has he been talking a “little history lesson” with Kamala?
There you go....the mid-east mind using numbers figuratively. (They lie.)
Everyone knows that Mohammad’s night flight on his winged horse Barrack to the “Farthest Mosque” in Jerusalem cemented their ownership even though there was no mosque in Jerusalem at the time of the “winged flight” and in fact it would be 3 years before Jerusalem fell to the criminal enterprise called Islam, and finally neither horses and unicorns have wings! (Of course, of course!)
Erdogan badly needs a Ceaucescue moment.
Get Turtkey out of NATO, at least until these these belligerent jerks (not the Turks in general, Erdogan and his sycophants) are out of power. There is no way I want the USA to go to war to defend / support Turkey in a war they started with their aggressiveness.
The ‘palestinians’ we’re wandering nomads who fled and even fought against the newly REBORN nation of Israel during their 1948 war of independence, the Yom Kippur war (1973) and the 1967 six day war. The nomads don’t own land. They have never had nor ever wanted a country of their own until Israel returned to its ancestral homeland given to them by almighty God himself thousands of years ago. They are the whiney crybabies of the Muslim world in the same way Antifa are the illiterate rabid mongrel children of the Left and MSM.
It’s interesting that no muzzie nation wants them.
And... we need to take Constantinople back.
Islam has a bad habit of appropriating everyone else’s holy sites and thereby defiling them so that they are no longer holy.
Exactly - they’ve these so-called holy sites all over the place and scream and holler if any infidel comes near them.
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