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Vox calls Beethoven's Fifth Symphony 'a symbol of exclusion and elitism’
Washington Examiner ^ | 09.15.2020 | Spencer Neale

Posted on 09/16/2020 8:22:21 PM PDT by libh8er

Has the 19th-century German composer Ludwig van Beethoven become a modern symbol of "exclusion and elitism" for rich, white men?

In an article published by Vox on Tuesday that quoted New York Philharmonic clarinetist Anthony McGill, writers Nate Sloan and Charlie Harding argued that the work has been propped up by white, wealthy men, whose embrace of the musical composition stood as a symbol of "their superiority and importance."

Vox is not the only left-leaning outlet pushing to examine the racial makeup of classical music composers. In July, the New York Times published a lengthy article that accused the world of classical music of failing to address racism.

"With their major institutions founded on white European models and obstinately focused on the distant past, classical music and opera have been even slower than American society at large to confront racial inequity," read the New York Times's article.

"For others — women, LGBTQ+ people, people of color — Beethoven’s symphony is predominantly a reminder of classical music’s history of exclusion and elitism," Sloan and Harding wrote.

The writers suggested that because Beethoven was white and most other classical musicians are white, classical music has become a form of "exclusion, elitism, and gatekeeping" for black and brown people.

“As you perpetuate the idea that the giants of the music all look the same, it conveys to the other that there’s not a stake in that music for them,” classical music critic James Bennett II told Vox.

McGill struck a more measured tone, suggesting that an overemphasis on Beethoven's work keeps new musicians and ideas from being fully appreciated in real time.

McGill said, “If you pretend like there’s no other music out there, that Beethoven is the greatest music that ever will matter,” then new listeners will not feel welcome in the genre.


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To: Bayan

Most Nobel Prize winners in physics are white. Physics “has become a form of ‘exclusion, elitism, and gatekeeping’ for black and brown people.” These people (headpieces filled with straw) resent genius the preder Tsing Tse the music of decline.


41 posted on 09/16/2020 9:13:54 PM PDT by Vehmgericht (12)
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To: libh8er
Attacking success and achievement. It' what they do.

Beethoven was among the greatest of the classic composers, often considered THE greatest.

Wow, Beethoven's symphonies 3,5,6,7 and 9. Then there are his piano concertos, so great (5th is my fave).

And, much more.

42 posted on 09/16/2020 9:16:24 PM PDT by Seaplaner
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To: libh8er

No iTunes purchasss for me going forward.


43 posted on 09/16/2020 9:17:27 PM PDT by Hypo2
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To: libh8er

Considering that negros of the classical time were running around in Africa just a bit more advanced that the animals they hunted?

Where was their contribution to civilization?


44 posted on 09/16/2020 9:25:40 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading - T Jefferson)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Beethoven wrote his symphonies unable to hear a sound. He was probably our greatest musical genius.Is he from Salzburg or Germany?


45 posted on 09/16/2020 9:31:51 PM PDT by RightLady (Save Western Civilization.)
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To: libh8er

Yeah this bumping popping shit you hear now on most TV commercials really kicks Beethovens Ass.

Not.


46 posted on 09/16/2020 10:00:37 PM PDT by Gasshog
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To: RightLady

“Is he from Salzburg or Germany?”

Zimbabwe? That is where all the masters of the time came from.....


47 posted on 09/16/2020 10:15:21 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading - T Jefferson)
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To: RightLady

Beethoven was from Bonn, Germany. Mozart was from Salzburg, Austria.


48 posted on 09/16/2020 10:15:56 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: libh8er

This is what they don’t like. There is an order, a discipline behind much of the older classical music. Libs detest both.

https://www.intmath.com/blog/videos/music-math-genius-beethoven-9514


49 posted on 09/16/2020 10:19:03 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (In this circus called the Democrat Party, Biden is the monkey and Harris is the organ grinder...)
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To: Vehmgericht
Any work of genius is under attack by the resentful barbarians of the left.

Que the ‘Mombasa Jazz Trio’.

50 posted on 09/16/2020 10:23:55 PM PDT by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: libh8er

Its first notes, DA DA DA DOM symbolized the Morse code letter V and were used in films and radio productions to rally the Allies during WW11 .


51 posted on 09/16/2020 10:30:13 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin posting here for the record hoping somebody might read and pass around)
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To: libh8er

I guess they failed to prove old Ludwig Von was black.


52 posted on 09/16/2020 10:32:09 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Caveat Emperor)
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To: libh8er

In the 70s, someone wrote a silly satire of the political implications of Winnie-the-Pooh...


53 posted on 09/16/2020 10:33:16 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: Vehmgericht

I wonder what Susan wrote about NWA’s F*** the Police. Or anything by Red Hot Chili Peppers. Pelvic pounding indeed.


54 posted on 09/16/2020 10:35:31 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Caveat Emperor)
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To: libh8er

Would they settle for Walter Murphy’s “A Fifth of Beethoven”?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MFbn8EbB4k


55 posted on 09/16/2020 10:58:58 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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The human species is infected.

Who wants to be a white blood cell?


56 posted on 09/17/2020 12:59:16 AM PDT by Gene Eric (On Don't be a statist!)
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To: libh8er

Was the piano invented in Asia, Africa or Mesopotamia? Ummm, nah. But of course that couldn’t be the explanation for European dominance of symphonic music for centuries.


57 posted on 09/17/2020 1:24:54 AM PDT by KingofZion
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To: libh8er
The writers suggested that because Beethoven was white and most other classical musicians are white, classical music has become a form of "exclusion, elitism, and gatekeeping" for black and brown people.

Willie Mays was Black, and most other football and basketball players in the U.S. (a predominantly White country) are Black - Hence, professional sports in the U.S. have become a form of "exclusion, elitism, and gatekeeping" for White people and Asians.

Q.E.D. (using their twisted logic)

Regards,

58 posted on 09/17/2020 1:47:56 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Vehmgericht
McClary claims that the pelvic pounding in Beethoven’s Ninth Symphony adds up to nonorgasmic rape.

I, for one, find it quite orgasmic.

Regards,

59 posted on 09/17/2020 1:50:38 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: blueplum

Indeed I was thinking something similar the other day.

Why are they so intent on destroying our white cultural heritage? Our European descent? The phrase ‘white supremacy,’ is contorted now to mean anything of European enlightenment history.

While we look at this from the narrow lens of the United States it is difficult to realize this BLM movement is happening worldwide. Just as we watch the virus response globally and see the same lockdowns, one can see similar actions in other nations regarding the idea of ‘white supremacy being acted upon.

Part and parcel to this attack on western civilization is the persons who are claiming to be victims of it...have no past before and no known history before it. All they have is their ancestors were stolen, sold, and enslaved. As hard as they try to embrace Africa as a culture point, they cannot. So that historic point on their culture scale is lost for eternity. It is lost as that unlike other cultures around the world familial lines of history have basically been wiped away. The only solid reference point is when they came in contact with Europeans or Arabs.


60 posted on 09/17/2020 2:29:48 AM PDT by EBH (This had better be the last time I vote like my entire life depended on it.)
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