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Vox calls Beethoven's Fifth Symphony 'a symbol of exclusion and elitism’
Washington Examiner ^ | 09.15.2020 | Spencer Neale

Posted on 09/16/2020 8:22:21 PM PDT by libh8er

Has the 19th-century German composer Ludwig van Beethoven become a modern symbol of "exclusion and elitism" for rich, white men?

In an article published by Vox on Tuesday that quoted New York Philharmonic clarinetist Anthony McGill, writers Nate Sloan and Charlie Harding argued that the work has been propped up by white, wealthy men, whose embrace of the musical composition stood as a symbol of "their superiority and importance."

Vox is not the only left-leaning outlet pushing to examine the racial makeup of classical music composers. In July, the New York Times published a lengthy article that accused the world of classical music of failing to address racism.

"With their major institutions founded on white European models and obstinately focused on the distant past, classical music and opera have been even slower than American society at large to confront racial inequity," read the New York Times's article.

"For others — women, LGBTQ+ people, people of color — Beethoven’s symphony is predominantly a reminder of classical music’s history of exclusion and elitism," Sloan and Harding wrote.

The writers suggested that because Beethoven was white and most other classical musicians are white, classical music has become a form of "exclusion, elitism, and gatekeeping" for black and brown people.

“As you perpetuate the idea that the giants of the music all look the same, it conveys to the other that there’s not a stake in that music for them,” classical music critic James Bennett II told Vox.

McGill struck a more measured tone, suggesting that an overemphasis on Beethoven's work keeps new musicians and ideas from being fully appreciated in real time.

McGill said, “If you pretend like there’s no other music out there, that Beethoven is the greatest music that ever will matter,” then new listeners will not feel welcome in the genre.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
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1 posted on 09/16/2020 8:22:21 PM PDT by libh8er
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...V!


2 posted on 09/16/2020 8:23:27 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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Yeah, Grade C Rap is now society’s highest achievement.


3 posted on 09/16/2020 8:24:39 PM PDT by Paladin2 (need)
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intelligent idiots

leave our country

i’m sure you all know of a better place in africa or the middle east

leave now while you still are able to do so in a civilized manner


4 posted on 09/16/2020 8:24:43 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: libh8er

“It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt.”

Mark Twain


5 posted on 09/16/2020 8:24:59 PM PDT by Junk Silver (Calling an Antifa protest "Mostly peaceful" is like saying your girlfriend is "Mostly not pregnant".)
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To: libh8er

Minorities histories are replete with nothingness

So they now aim to destroy ours


6 posted on 09/16/2020 8:25:03 PM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you run the tra)
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To: libh8er

Vox is boring. Destroy is all they know. Create beauty and joy, now that’s brilliant.


7 posted on 09/16/2020 8:25:07 PM PDT by conservativepoet
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I thought Beethoven was black. Isn’t it racist to say his music is divisive and exclusive?


8 posted on 09/16/2020 8:25:19 PM PDT by Shadow44
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he forgets he’s attacking a deaf guy


9 posted on 09/16/2020 8:25:45 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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And rap is a symbol of ignorance and illiteracy. There I said it


10 posted on 09/16/2020 8:28:44 PM PDT by dsrtsage (Complexity is merely simplicity lacking imagination)
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I thought Beethoven was black.

https://www.blackhistory.com/2018/06/ludwig-van-beethoven-classical-musician-was-black-man-mother-moor.html


11 posted on 09/16/2020 8:28:44 PM PDT by Flick Lives (My work's illegal, but at least it's honest. - Capt. Malcolm Reynolds)
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So was Hamilton.


12 posted on 09/16/2020 8:28:47 PM PDT by HighSierra5
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>>McGill said, “If you pretend like there’s no other music out there, that Beethoven is the greatest music that ever will matter,” then new listeners will not feel welcome in the genre.<<

Except NO ONE does that!

This is a typical lefty non sequiter. As I have said many times, the only logic lefties have is logical fallacies.


13 posted on 09/16/2020 8:29:19 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Do not mistake activity for achievement." - John Wooden)
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I think blues and jazz added a thing or two to culture.


14 posted on 09/16/2020 8:29:26 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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“As you perpetuate the idea that the giants of the music all look the same, it conveys to the other that there’s not a stake in that music for them,” classical music critic James Bennett II told Vox.

Those who can't do, teach.
Those who can't teach, criticize.

15 posted on 09/16/2020 8:30:09 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The Constitution guarantees the States protection against insurrection. Act now, Mr. President!)
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So here we have these ultra-modern people making the argument that “Wet Ass P****y” is greater art than Betthoven’s 5th Symphony.

I don’t know what says to you but what it says to me is that Darwin was wrong.


16 posted on 09/16/2020 8:30:27 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (Make Orwell Fiction Again)
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This is ridiculous, to say the least. You can like Coltrane, Sly, Hendrix, AND Debussy, Beethoven, and Verdi’s operas. They aren’t mutually exclusive, AND they are beyond race.


17 posted on 09/16/2020 8:31:41 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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18 posted on 09/16/2020 8:32:51 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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why because it doesn’t include foul language, ass cracks showing, and twerking?

I’m starting to think this vague term “white privledge” just means standards and making good choices.

Like “why are white females walking in hoodies not followed” WHITE PRIVLEDGE? yea no. It’s because statistically speaking white females do not commit a lot of violent crime. They do not engage in choices that cause them to be looked upon as suspect.


19 posted on 09/16/2020 8:34:38 PM PDT by snarkytart
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I suppose if Biden wins the election, Beethoven will suddenly become relevant again.
20 posted on 09/16/2020 8:34:46 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The Constitution guarantees the States protection against insurrection. Act now, Mr. President!)
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