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Fact checking the fact checkers: Trump does indeed plan to destroy Social Security
The Hill ^ | Sept 10, 2020 | Nancy Altman

Posted on 09/10/2020 2:55:35 PM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?

Donald Trump's nonstop lies, together with his endless cries of "fake news" and "hoax," make the role of media fact checkers more important than ever. Unfortunately, on the crucial issue of Social Security, too many of them are furiously defending Trump from his own words.

Instead of acting as a check on Trump's lies, they act like bullied children seeking to appease. They provide him cover, grade him on a curve, and give him every benefit of the doubt while denying that same leniency to Joe Biden and others. This is an extreme disservice in the lead-up to the election, muddying the debate over an issue about which voters care deeply....

Trump promises to end Social Security as we know it.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


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KEYWORDS: chatforum; dnctalkingpoint; dnctalkingpoints; fakenews; mediawingofthednc; nancyaltman; nancypelosi; notnews; partisanmediashills; payrolldeduction; presstitutes; smearmachine; socialsecurity; ss; tds
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
Here’s what Nancy Altman said in February 2012 when Pelosi and Obama did the same, courtesy of Reuters.

But Social Security advocates worry that these temporary payroll tax cuts will never be restored. “The problem is, it is very easy in our current political climate to cut revenue and very hard to increase it,” says Nancy Altman, co-director of the Strengthen Social Security coalition and author of The Battle for Social Security, an excellent history of the program and its politics.

“Look at the controversy over ending the Bush tax cuts, which would only affect a small portion of taxpayers,” Altman says. “In this case, if you propose restoring the payroll tax down the road, you’d have to double the rates on workers making minimum wage. This is being sold as temporary, but it’s not likely to work out that way.”

Note the lack of histrionic hyperbole.

21 posted on 09/10/2020 3:13:09 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Irish lives matter!)
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To: Flaming Conservative

I agree, but that was in big city newspapers, and not so much in small town papers and when there was less dominance of tv news.


22 posted on 09/10/2020 3:15:04 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

“Nancy Pelosi appointed Ms. Altman to a six-year term, starting October 1, 2017, on the Social Security Advisory Board.”

That’s all I need to know, right there.


23 posted on 09/10/2020 3:16:58 PM PDT by throwthebumsout
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To: Olog-hai; where's_the_Outrage?

[good time to buy stock in dog food]

Hey, don’t let her get to it before the dog does.

Dogs are our friends.


24 posted on 09/10/2020 3:17:21 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

“Donald Trump’s nonstop lies, together with his endless cries of “fake news” and “hoax,” make the role of media fact checkers more important than ever.”

What lies? Depraved leftwad scum are constantly accusing President Trump of lying, but they never quote a lie.

I want somebody to quote for me a lie, an actual lie, told by DJT.


25 posted on 09/10/2020 3:18:16 PM PDT by dsc (We are competing against Soros money poured onto a hive mentality.)
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To: GreyFriar

I majored in communications (emphasis journalism) in the years spanning Watergate. There was a huge sea change between pre-Watergate and post-Watergate students. Prior to 1973, the attitude among my fellow students was gathering and publishing information in as neutral a viewpoint as possible and letting others sort out the consequences. After Watergate there were many students who aspired to be Bernstein/Woodward crusaders toppling powers-that-be. I think that latter attitude is now fully flowered in today’s media.


26 posted on 09/10/2020 3:20:09 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Projection. Dems will do this in 2024 if they take over.


27 posted on 09/10/2020 3:23:57 PM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Since this article is complete BS, it got me wondering what is the criteria for becoming a ‘fact checker’?

for most professions these day there are some level of certification that a person actually knows what they are doing before being hired and given a title

now we have completely unknown cretons that ae labeled as fact checker without any vetting on the part of the public. We are supposed to just accept that fact checkers aid it was not true so therefore. . .

So now we have part time ANTIFA members and pat time runners in the news rooms being given lap tops and told to ‘fact check’ everyone, but remember we are one paying you so. . .

So we now have the most dishonest, lying media the world has ever seen and they are doing fact checking on themselves and we are supposed accept this pile of bull


28 posted on 09/10/2020 3:24:38 PM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.(DT4POTUS))
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To: throwthebumsout
[“Nancy Pelosi appointed Ms. Altman to a six-year term, starting October 1, 2017, on the Social Security Advisory Board.”]

Nancy needs to wash that woman right outta her hair.


29 posted on 09/10/2020 3:24:52 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Demorats always go after the Social Security issue to scare Seniors every election...same Drumbeat they never tire beating.

They will always preach one way or another about the biggest revenue sources out there.....Social Security, Education, Healthcare, Welfare etc etc...all the places they use and abuse for their revenue flow.


30 posted on 09/10/2020 3:25:18 PM PDT by caww
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To: GreyFriar

It went away with that communist Walter Cronkite, so make that 50 + years ago


31 posted on 09/10/2020 3:26:04 PM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.(DT4POTUS))
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To: GreyFriar

“this was perhaps 30-40 years ago.”

The opening of America’s eyes to the media’s perfidy has been a long, drawn-out process. I didn’t see it until the early 1980s, but looking back in history, there was a crapload of fake news during the Vietnam War, and the Watergate scandal was entirely the creation of fake news.

FDR and “Give’em Hell” Harry were protected by fake news.

For that matter, Thomas Jefferson was persecuted by a lying fake news weasel.


32 posted on 09/10/2020 3:26:41 PM PDT by dsc (We are competing against Soros money poured onto a hive mentality.)
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To: SteelPSUGOP

Robbing from Peter to pay Paul is not new to the Federal Government...... Otherwise Pelosi and her cohorts wouldn’t be holding out in order to obtaine money to bail out California and New York with the Covid money....to the tune of 300 Billion each I understand.

Both states are on fire economically with no way out.


33 posted on 09/10/2020 3:30:59 PM PDT by caww
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Military Check
Corona virus. Check
Social security. Check
Next???


34 posted on 09/10/2020 3:33:03 PM PDT by griswold3 (Democratic Socialism is Slavery by Mob Rule)
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To: Flaming Conservative
Andy "ol Crook" Jackson (the first democrat) media buddies accused JQA of cavorting with french whores. They knew it was not true and printed it anyway.
35 posted on 09/10/2020 3:33:08 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (And lead us not into hysteria, but deliver us from the handwashers. Amen!)
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To: Prince of Space; All

Some FReeper posted a few days ago that his paycheck did NOT withhold Federal tax, but that the FICA WAS deducted.

This should confirm that SS is NOT being short-changed.


36 posted on 09/10/2020 3:33:13 PM PDT by octex
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To: dsc
Depraved leftwad scum are constantly accusing President Trump of lying, but they never quote a lie.

What should be obvious is that all their lying is cover for the fact that they have and have offered no policy proposals. That's because their last proposal - to defund the police - and the consequences thereof didn't exactly meet with rave reviews

37 posted on 09/10/2020 3:33:40 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

“What should be obvious is that all their lying is cover for the fact that they have and have offered no policy proposals.”

Well, it’s obvious to you and me, but somehow not to Biden’s hundreds of supporters.


38 posted on 09/10/2020 3:38:07 PM PDT by dsc (We are competing against Soros money poured onto a hive mentality.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

On a related note, this month is the final month of the quarter that is used to determine SS COLA increase, if any, for next year. I haven’t heard any predictions yet. I’m guessing zero increase.


39 posted on 09/10/2020 3:39:56 PM PDT by mouske
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Why don’t they ever mention that Biden has said through the years that we’ll eventually need to cut Social Security?

Oh yeah, because he’s not the Bad Orange Man.


40 posted on 09/10/2020 3:40:31 PM PDT by Deo volente ("When we see the image of a baby in the womb, we glimpse the majesty of God's creation." Pres. Trump)
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