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Solar Panels Are Starting to Die. What Will We Do With The Megatons Of Toxic Trash?
American Experiment. ^ | August 27, 2020 | Isaac Orr

Posted on 09/01/2020 11:52:50 AM PDT by george76

Most people seem to believe that wind and solar panels produce no waste and have no negative environmental impacts. Unfortunately, these people are wrong.

In reality, everything that humans do has an environmental impact, whether it be mining, using a coal-fired power plant, or even tourism. When it comes to energy and environmental policy, the real question to ask is not “will there be an impact?” but rather, “can the impacts be minimized?” ...

Because everything has an effect on the environment, it is important that everyone understands the impacts of all energy sources so we can make the best possible energy decisions. We are constantly making trade-offs in our lives whether we recognize it or not.

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Unlike other forms of electricity generation, like nuclear plants or coal plants, there doesn’t seem to be any foresight on how to deal with the waste that will be generated when solar panels and wind turbines reach the end of their short lifetimes. Remember, nuclear plants can run for 80 years, as can coal plants with proper maintenance and upkeep, but even the best wind turbines and solar panels will last for just 25 years, creating staggering amounts of waste products.

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solar panels are expected to generate 866 times more waste in the next 30 years than nuclear power has generated in the last 50. And unlike nuclear waste, which is safely stored on site, nobody knows what will happen to these solar panels at the end of their useful lifetime because solar panels are not easily recycled.

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Unfortunately, most people still don’t understand that wind and solar require enormous amounts of metal, and that much of this metal is mined in Third-World countries that have few protections for workers or the environment.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanexperiment.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: Colorado; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: coal; coalplants; electricity; globalwarminghoax; greennewdeal; michaelmoore; moneylaundering; nuclear; nuclearplants; solar; solarpanels; toxictrash; waroncoal; wind; windturbines
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I live in the state of roving blackouts. Electricity bills
are horrendous. I have a family member who had solar
panels installed on his rough, and two Tesla Power banks
on the side of their home.

They pay no more now than they did before they installed the
system. In five more years, their whole set-up will be paid
off, and they will be able to sell power back to the grid
without any costs each month.

You have to be a demonicRat to think that’s a good idea?

LOL, ah no...


21 posted on 09/01/2020 12:02:57 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Some of the folks around these parts have been sniffing super flu.)
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To: treetopsandroofs

Lots of room in northern Arizona to fill up. Just sayin’.....


22 posted on 09/01/2020 12:03:03 PM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: digger48
“Gee,,,we never thought of that”

"But we meant well."

23 posted on 09/01/2020 12:03:28 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

LOL, I had to literally LOL. Yes, some think electricity comes from the electrical outlet, and don’t know or understand that the electricity has to be generated somewhere in order to be available in that wall outlet.


24 posted on 09/01/2020 12:03:45 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: george76
Idiot! You cover them with Pixie dust and poof, every things OK!
25 posted on 09/01/2020 12:06:22 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: CatOwner

I live in an area where softball-size hail is not unheard of.


26 posted on 09/01/2020 12:07:36 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: CatOwner

What electrical companies do when a large group of customers use these things, is that if they actually cause a decrease in power demand, they will create a surcharge for using solar panels and accessing the power grid. They did it in Arizona. So no major savings.


27 posted on 09/01/2020 12:09:00 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: DoughtyOne
I live in the state of roving blackouts.

California? That means you also get significant sun just about every day. This fellow lives here in Pittsburgh. I think only Seattle clocks less annual hours of sunshine than we do. It's a pure virtue signal.


28 posted on 09/01/2020 12:09:12 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: george76

Ummm, ever hear of recycling?


29 posted on 09/01/2020 12:09:40 PM PDT by null and void (The Left weaponizes everything in the service of tyranny.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Tell him that only nuclear power can support electric cars without a significant increase in pollution!


30 posted on 09/01/2020 12:10:07 PM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security! (Ironic, huh?))
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To: stars & stripes forever

Now THAT is a great idea!


31 posted on 09/01/2020 12:10:29 PM PDT by MrChips ("To wisdom belongs the apprehension of eternal things." - St. Augustine)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

You make a good point there. I don’t know the weather
situation like you do, but I think you’re probably dead
on target with that observation.


32 posted on 09/01/2020 12:13:26 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Some of the folks around these parts have been sniffing super flu.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I was part of a group that fought and won against a big Industrial Wind Turbine Complex near me. The first in our state to be successful

They lies that we exposed were numerous

We finally won by convincing the Board of Zoning Appeals to force them into providing a Property Value Guarantee

They claimed adjacent property owners would suffer NO loss in property value, but damsure wouldn’t back it up in writing


33 posted on 09/01/2020 12:13:58 PM PDT by digger48
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To: CatOwner
Given the cost of energy in California, I can see why some might opt for solar panels.

I did.

But since California law said that every "excess" Watt you generated was a GIFT to PG&E my system was deliberately anemic, never did cover my full usage.

Still ended up paying for itself, and it did boost the property value a bit when I sold the house.

34 posted on 09/01/2020 12:15:24 PM PDT by null and void (The Left weaponizes everything in the service of tyranny.)
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To: george76

This is complete and total bullcrap

Solar panels ,also known as photovoltaics , come with a 25 or 30 year warranty

Now mind you this is only for the crystalline silicon tight panels there’s been some other pretenders out there over the years and they’ve all gone by the wayside -amorphous silicon cadmium telluride and others

Photovoltaics are the only source of electricity on planet earth it doesn’t have any moving parts

I’ve been installing solar panels since 1990 that’s 30 years now

I have service systems that are over 25 years old the panels are still working fine the only thing that fails is inverters

Inverters are what make your solar panels connect to the utility and sell downhill

I challenge this author and any other idiot that tries to say anything bad about photovoltaics to talk only about photovoltaics alone and don’t try to lump them in with any other technology such as wind - they are night and day

You only have two choices as a homeowner or a business owner put solar panels on your roof or keep paying utility forever whatever they want to charge

Furthermore if they decide to turn off your power you’re on your own unless you install batteries


35 posted on 09/01/2020 12:18:30 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guv-mint you get is the Trump winning express ! Yea haw ! Trump pence II! Furthermore if they)
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To: CatOwner

a 2017 hailstorm in Denver that caused severe damage across the city proved the durability of solar panels. The hailstones were roughly 3 inches wide! However, out of 3,000 solar modules on NREL’s Denver campus, only one panel was broken.4


36 posted on 09/01/2020 12:21:30 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: BenLurkin

Perfect solution. I’d also send a bunch to AOC.


37 posted on 09/01/2020 12:24:13 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: george76

also, don’t forget the tremendous environmental impact from the physical & chemical macro/micro-processing aspects of solar batteries fabrication. These very aspects are numerous.


38 posted on 09/01/2020 12:25:12 PM PDT by leopud
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To: Red Badger

The heavily taxpayer subsidized solar industry has created millions of pounds of polluted sludge and contaminated water..

The now-defunct, bankrupted Solyndra used its $535 million in guaranteed federal tax dollars to generate about 12.5 million pounds of hazardous waste, much of which was carcinogenic cadmium-contaminated waste, during its four years of operations.

But, you say, solar energy is clean, green, and ... Isn’t that what we have all been told?

The truth can be brutal. The average lifespan of a solar panel is about 20 years, but high temperatures can accelerate the aging process for solar cells, and snow, dust, and other natural events (tornadoes, earthquakes),can cause material fatigue on the surface and in the internal electric circuits – reducing the panel’s power output.

Another real concern is the vast increase in the use of nitrogen trifluoride (NF3) in the construction of solar panels – up 1,057 percent over the past 25 years. The UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change deems NF3 to be 17,200 times more potent than carbon dioxide as a greenhouse gas ..

https://www.cfact.org/2019/09/15/the-solar-panel-toxic-waste-problem/


39 posted on 09/01/2020 12:26:34 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

My liberal acquaintance used to rave about us stepdaughter’s Pruis. The other day a light came on. She figured she would look it up when she got home. The car died long before. Turns out the battery died. You can’t run on the engine alone. A replacement is $7500, except there are none available. It is more than the car is worth. Two estimates on trade-in value were $100 and $150. I said i was sorry. (It sounded TOTALLY genuine.)


40 posted on 09/01/2020 12:28:16 PM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud?)
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