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Vehicle “Protest” Encounters: Politics, Legal Jeopardy, Defense
AmmoLand ^ | 19 August, 2020 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 08/23/2020 5:38:26 AM PDT by marktwain

Image from indystar.com video, cropped, scaled, arrows and lettering added by Dean Weingarten

In the seeming never-ending riots portrayed as “peaceful protests” by the Progressive left, including most of the Media, there are an increasing number of drivers/passengers involved in vehicle encounters with agitators/protestors.

There are numerous responses on Internet forums about how to handle a situation where a person or persons in a vehicle encounter, often unexpectedly, agitators/protestors who are aggressively blocking a public right of way.

Many of these responses are very dangerous. It seems to be precisely what is desired by the Progressive left, such as Antifa and BLM, their organizers, handlers, and political theorists.

This article explains some of the dynamics observed from the reporting of these events, and a framework of how to respond with the least risk to the driver/passenger(s) involved.

The design of many of these events is to deliberately block public right-of-ways, to inconvenience large numbers of the public, and to show the public the participants can break the law with impunity.

Part of the design is to trap drivers/passengers and provoke a violent response to further the Antifa/BLM agenda.

In nearly all of these events, the local government, which may include the local prosecutor, mayor, and or city council, are complicit, sympathetic, or compromised on the side of those organizing the event and the violence.

Those who create these events, or to be charitable, hi-jack them and take advantage of them, want confrontation, violence, destruction, and death. They want to frame the confrontation, violence, destruction, and death as being caused by “racists and or white supremacists”, which is newspeak for enemies of the party, with “the party” being the Progressive far-left as exemplified by the furthest left thinkers, planners and organizers.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antifa; banglist; civilunrest; defense; protest; tactics; technique; vehicle
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The agitators and organizers want confrontation and violence. They want another Charlottesville.

Do not give it to them.

1 posted on 08/23/2020 5:38:26 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

It’s the one on the right.

Mash it to the floor.

L


2 posted on 08/23/2020 5:40:25 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Lurker

Damn right.
I have a 99 Suburban.
Just hope none of them get caught on the two hooks under my front bumper.


3 posted on 08/23/2020 5:43:54 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Fact: Gun control laws kill innocents.)
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To: marktwain

If they’re arrested, they can just come back the next day. Have their been any estimates of how many people involved in the violence (not counting the useful idiots who are providing cover).


4 posted on 08/23/2020 5:44:04 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: marktwain

Do not give it to them.

Then live with them owning your ass for life.


5 posted on 08/23/2020 5:46:51 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: marktwain

If somebody pulls a gun in front of my vehicle, as in the photo attached to the article, I’m going head down and hammer down. Period. I’m not going to wait to be shot.

In cases where guns are not seen, I’ll drive forward at 5mph. This gives any roadblockers the choice to walk out of the way, or not. Their choice. No human can stop a car moving even at 5hp.

If a window is broken, I’ll take it as a warning that commercial fireworks (incendiary grenade inside a vehicle) or a molotov cocktail is coming in. So if a window is breached, I’m going head down and hammer down.


6 posted on 08/23/2020 5:51:45 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Lurker

If I see a gun, hammer down.
Otherwise, see #6.


7 posted on 08/23/2020 5:53:40 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Always keep hearing protection in your vehicle, too. Preferably the electronic kind. Ear plugs for any passengers.
I do.


8 posted on 08/23/2020 5:54:30 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Fact: Gun control laws kill innocents.)
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To: TalBlack

There is no “one size fits all” solution.

See #6.


9 posted on 08/23/2020 5:54:30 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: RandallFlagg

IMHO, unless your car is physically unable to move (crashed, trapped by blocking vehicles etc), it’s a much better weapon than a pistol fired out of or through a window. Head down, hammer down, your vehicle/weapon also gets you out of the ambush. Both hands on the wheel, duck, accelerate. Unless your vehicle is pinned and unable to move.


10 posted on 08/23/2020 5:56:57 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Agreed.
It’s pretty sad that we have to talk about and prepare for these things, though.
But, this is where the left has taken us.
They want us all enslaved or dead.
We must act accordingly.


11 posted on 08/23/2020 6:01:30 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Fact: Gun control laws kill innocents.)
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To: Travis McGee

Tips for moving a vehicle blocking the path?

L


12 posted on 08/23/2020 6:09:56 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: RandallFlagg

1. I never ever stop (at a red light or anywhere) nearer than 15 feet from the vehicle in front. This allows me to accelerate out even if the timid fool in front is afraid to move.

2. If I see even a hint of a protest, I get in the inside lane, so I’m not trapped along the curb side by vehicles on my left.

3. If anybody stands in front of my vehicle, I’m going to move forward at 5mph. At 5mph or 35, a human cannot stop or even slow a vehicle. Its many horsepower vs one human power. No contest. Car wins. At 5mph, you are demonstrating (to a later hypothetical court) that your intention was not to run anybody down. They can simply move out of the way, or not.

4. After the Portland beat down, I have a reasonable fear of death or grave bodily injury if I’m pulled from my vehicle by an angry mob. I’m not stopping. I’ll keep a steady 5 mph forward speed.

5. If I see a gun brandished, or one of my windows is breached, I’m going hammer down, and to hell with anybody in front of me. “Fear for my life.”

6. I will not pull my own gun as long as my vehicle is moving. It’s just a better weapon than a pistol, and the vehicle gets you clear of the danger zone, a pistol does not.

7. I will only pull my pistol if my vehicle is physically stopped, (and I don’t mean by idiots standing in front of it.)


13 posted on 08/23/2020 6:14:56 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Bingo.
And, hearing protection also helps when the mob decides to toss explosives nearby.


14 posted on 08/23/2020 6:18:17 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Fact: Gun control laws kill innocents.)
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To: Lurker

I’d pit maneuver another vehicle or pull any other move required to clear the area. There are lots of videos on the best ways to do this. It’s a little too complex to describe in detail here. Better is to get to the inside lane, so the (empty) oncoming lane gives you an escape route.

At 5mph you are not “intentionally running anybody down.” They can easily get out of the way, it’s their choice.

But as soon as I see a gun or a window is broken, I’m accelerating out at speed. I’m not waiting to be shot or have an incendiary thrown in through the busted out window.


15 posted on 08/23/2020 6:18:43 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: marktwain

My friend has a traffic app on his phone to avoid traffic jams.

It should also be useful to avoid roadblocks.


16 posted on 08/23/2020 6:19:02 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: marktwain

About 1 out of 10 Florida drivers has a concealed carry permit.

Leftists should behave as if their lives mattered.


17 posted on 08/23/2020 6:21:39 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Travis McGee

“I feared for my life and got the hell out of there judge.”


18 posted on 08/23/2020 6:21:39 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies.....all of them)
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To: Travis McGee

“I’d pit maneuver another vehicle or pull any other move required to clear the area. There are lots of videos on the best ways to do this.”

Seen a few. I’ll watch some more. Did a J turn the other day just for fun. Mrs L was only moderately amused.

“I’m not waiting to be shot or have an incendiary thrown in through the busted out window.”

That’s our plan, too. We both always travel armed now. And we both have the same gun with spare magazines. No confusion about what works with which piece.

Love our XDS pistols. In .45 they’re small but very potent.

L


19 posted on 08/23/2020 6:22:55 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: marktwain

Thanks Dean,
Food for thought.


20 posted on 08/23/2020 6:23:15 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (TRUMP vs Biden-----------Any Question?)
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