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The birthers are back (Barf Alert)
Washington Post ^ | August 13th 2020 | Karen Tumulty

Posted on 08/15/2020 2:35:33 PM PDT by Ennis85

Well, that didn’t take long.

A non-White American citizen born right here in the United States has gotten a spot on the Democratic presidential ticket, and the birthers have come scurrying out from whatever rock they have been living under since Barack Obama left office.

Within hours of former vice president Joe Biden’s announcement Wednesday of his history-making running mate, once-reputable Newsweek posted a story posing “Some Questions for Kamala Harris About Eligibility.”

The author, John Eastman, a conservative law professor, wrote that “some” are “questioning” whether Harris might be “constitutionally ineligible” to be vice president because, should she have to step into the presidency, she might not meet the Constitution’s Article II requirement that this country’s chief executive be a “natural born” citizen.

Jenna Ellis, who appears frequently these days on cable television as a “senior legal adviser” to the Trump campaign, quickly embraced this nontroversy, retweeting a link to Eastman’s article and later declaring Harris’s eligibility an “open question.” So we are left to assume that the president’s reelection campaign is on board with this line of inquiry, which is reminiscent of President Trump’s own leadership of the “birther” movement when it was first launched against Obama.

Harris is the daughter of immigrants. Her father (from Jamaica) and her mother (from India) were not citizens at the time of her birth in 1964. A birth that — Have I mentioned this? Stay with me here, because this is important — happened in Oakland, Calif., which was then and is now in the United States of America. That means Harris was a U.S. citizen from the first second of her life.

The theoretical and esoteric question of whether first-generation Americans are eligible to be president is booted around from time to time in law-professor circles.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Delaware; US: District of Columbia
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw
"In every country on Earth a child born to two non-citizens is not a citizen..."

That's not true. Here's a list of 30: Countries Who Offer Birthright Citizenship

Besides, what other countries do has no effect on how things work here.

21 posted on 08/15/2020 2:50:39 PM PDT by mlo
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To: Ennis85

This is the Democrats main campaign topic. That we’re crazy racist fools.

They’re obsessed with fringes that oppose them.

The majority of social media Democrat/Liberal/Leftist is about what rubes non-Democrats are.

That’s essentially their campaign platform.

They like to feel superior.


22 posted on 08/15/2020 2:50:52 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: mlo

“Based on what? Be precise!”
There is no such requirement in the Constitution.
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There are at least 2 supreme court decisions defining natural born citizen as being the child of US citizens at the time of birth.

If you need the cases, you may look them up as well as I can.


23 posted on 08/15/2020 2:50:55 PM PDT by beekay
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To: All
Kamala's immigrants parents.... father (Jamaican), mother (Indian), were not US citizens at the time of her birth in 1964 in Oakland, Calif.

Ergo, Kamala is an "anchor baby:" A child born to a noncitizen mother in a country when the child's birthplace is thought
to have been chosen for the specific purpose of improving the mother's......and/or other relatives'.....chances of securing eventual citizenship.

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When did her parent become citizens?

Was her birth used in the parental citizenship quest?

How many of Kamala's relatives secured citizenship after her birth?

24 posted on 08/15/2020 2:51:22 PM PDT by Liz
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To: Paine in the Neck

Thank you for saving me some time. You are exactly correct.


25 posted on 08/15/2020 2:52:02 PM PDT by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Strange that a man with his wealth would have to resort to prostitution.)
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw
"That is the law regarding special citizenship called “natural-born citizenship."

No, it isn't. There is no such law.

26 posted on 08/15/2020 2:52:18 PM PDT by mlo
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To: Ennis85

See how much good this did last time it came up right?


27 posted on 08/15/2020 2:52:44 PM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Paine in the Neck

One better though- Kamala isn’t even a U.S. citizen, strictly speaking.


28 posted on 08/15/2020 2:54:14 PM PDT by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Strange that a man with his wealth would have to resort to prostitution.)
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To: beekay
"There are at least 2 supreme court decisions defining natural born citizen as being the child of US citizens at the time of birth."

No there aren't. There are some cases where birthers have taken selective quotes out of context and read meaning into that isn't there. There are zero Supreme Court cases that have ruled what the birthers claim.

"If you need the cases, you may look them up as well as I can."

Been there, done that.

29 posted on 08/15/2020 2:54:17 PM PDT by mlo
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To: Diogenesis

She moved with her mother to Canada when she was twelve and lived there until she graduated in 1981


30 posted on 08/15/2020 2:55:10 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Ennis85

If the author weren’t so clueless, she would have noted that the “birthers” were very active in 2016 concerned Ted Cruz’ eligibility.


31 posted on 08/15/2020 2:56:34 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Hillary: A unique blend of arrogance, incompetence, and corruption.)
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To: Regulator

Karenism: Fidiots of America who are riding dirty the turd into the American toilet.


32 posted on 08/15/2020 2:57:14 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Meatspace
Both parents must be U.S. citizens at the time of your birth.

Where is this in the law?

It's not in the Constitution, which merely says that the President must be a "natural born citizen," without ever defining the term.

People point to Minor vs. Happersett, but Minor merely stated that a person born in the US of two citizen parents is an NBC. The word "only" did not appear. In fact, it said nothing one way or the other about a person born here of two non-citizen parents (who weren't here as agents of a foreign government, so they would fall under the "jurisdiction of the United States" clause in the 14th Amendment).

Look, don't get me wrong. I would be delighted if EVERY Democrat were ineligible to ANY political office, including Kamelbreath Harris and the office of VP. But the law doesn't back you up. I'm sorry it doesn't, but it doesn't.

33 posted on 08/15/2020 2:57:34 PM PDT by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: mlo

“That citizenship of her parents has nothing to do with her eligibility.”

Hmm...

http://www.usnaturalborncitizen.com/index.html

http://www.usnaturalborncitizen.com/kamalaharris.html

When both parents are citizens and the child is born on US soil then the children are natural born. When only one or neither parent is a citizen then the child is also only a 14th Amendment citizen with all the same rights as a Natural Born Citizen except that of the President.

Many people confuse the term Native Born with Natural Born. The meaning of the terms is quite different now. The meaning of Natural Born has never changed. The Native born meaning changed in 1866 with the adding of the 14th Amendment.

(Hat tip to LegendHasIt.)


34 posted on 08/15/2020 2:58:18 PM PDT by polymuser (A socialist is a communist without the power to take everything from their citizens...yet.)
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To: beekay
There are at least 2 supreme court decisions defining natural born citizen as being the child of US citizens at the time of birth.

Minor does not address the question of whether the child of two non-citizen parents is an NBC.

What's the other one?

35 posted on 08/15/2020 2:58:58 PM PDT by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: rktman

Understanding the law and history is good. Spreading that knowledge is better. I can explain it to you, but I can’t understand it for you.


36 posted on 08/15/2020 2:59:15 PM PDT by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Strange that a man with his wealth would have to resort to prostitution.)
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To: Diogenesis
"Therefore every person born within the United States, its territories or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural born citizen in the sense of the Constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privileges appertaining to that capacity."-- William Rawle, A View of the Constitution of the United States of America (1829).
37 posted on 08/15/2020 2:59:33 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: polymuser
"When both parents are citizens and the child is born on US soil then the children are natural born."

When the child is born on US soil the citizenship of the parents is irrelevant.

38 posted on 08/15/2020 3:00:17 PM PDT by mlo
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To: polymuser
When only one or neither parent is a citizen then the child is also only a 14th Amendment citizen with all the same rights as a Natural Born Citizen except that of the President.

No court decision, no statute, and no language in the Constitution itself says that.

Maybe it should, maybe that's what the Framers meant, but the language just isn't there.

39 posted on 08/15/2020 3:00:40 PM PDT by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw
"...I can explain it to you, but I can’t understand it for you."

But you can misunderstand it.

40 posted on 08/15/2020 3:01:47 PM PDT by mlo
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