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IT'S ON: John MacArthur Sues Newsom for Banning Church While Encouraging Protests [ California ]
PJmedia ^ | AUG 14, 2020 | Tyler O’Neil

Posted on 08/13/2020 9:56:59 PM PDT by george76

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To: george76; Alex Murphy; boatbums; CynicalBear; daniel1212; ealgeone; Elsie; Gamecock; HossB86; ...

Prayers up.


21 posted on 08/14/2020 1:47:59 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: mdmathis6

Honestly, MacArthur somewhat surprised me with his stand and has shocked me with his actions.

I did not expect this from him, but I am behind it 10,000 percent and my respect for him has gone through the roof.

I’m glad he did it because they are big enough to have the resources to take on the legal battle, and they apparently have been consulting good legal advice, I’m sure with the guidance of the Holy Spirit.


22 posted on 08/14/2020 1:52:45 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Eagles6

That’s the question of the ages and there’s been deafening silence on that front.

I did read about one mosque that was open and disinfecting and social distancing, but beyond that have not heard.


23 posted on 08/14/2020 1:56:29 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: frnewsjunkie

Been thinking about it....considering the population of u.s. is prob 330+ million....how many total lunatic protesters are out there? I dont think the general public is buying the phoney polls and are aware of mob rule acquiescence. As far as protests being outdoors....there was no social distancing...so being outdoors is not a good excuse for allowing protests....it is also uncontrollable...so Dr. MacArthurs suit is has pointed out that there is unequal enforcement of the health mandate. I hope they get some judges who see the inequity....judicial relief? Only God knows....personally...I would try and follow the mandates and if not possible would seek judicial relief if other parties were not prosecuted for doing the same. Cali. Is totally corrupt. Everything.


24 posted on 08/14/2020 2:08:00 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: metmom; All

The supporters of Beth Anne Moore who were angry of MacArthur’s criticism of her need to take a second look. His stand is reminiscent of the many churches who took a stand against British tyranny. This country was preached into existence by such protestant churches.

The dark powers and the men controlled by them in this country fear such a move of God through such churches. A Holy Spirit filled people awakened to evil cannot be ruled or made to abide with evil.

A simple question...if governments allow the massing of people to protest against injustice then must not governments also allow the massing of people who oppose the sin that causes such injustice to arise in the first place? That is the question before the court.


25 posted on 08/14/2020 3:31:12 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: george76
I,and others,have been saying this for months: many of the orders that have been issued by Rat Party (and RINO) Governors and Mayors should be challenged...in FEDERAL court...on Constitutional grounds.

First Amendment:Freedom of Religion,Freedom to peacefully assemble. Second Amendment. The right to engage in Interstate commerce (not sure exactly where that's noted in the Constitution).

In June a Federal judge in Boston ruled that the order issued by the Trump hating RINO Governor of Massachusetts requiring gun shops and gun ranges to close was unconstitutional and he ordered them to reopen.

The same should happen regarding churches and other assemblies.

26 posted on 08/14/2020 3:31:33 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Just Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election!)
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To: Persevero

Meanwhile, the Catholic Churches and leadership are silent. They’ve turned God’s house into a den of thieves.


27 posted on 08/14/2020 4:09:29 AM PDT by NTHockey (My rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: olivia3boys; All
I do think churches should all be open in the entire United States—and services should be held outside

I think services should be wherever the pastor and congregation wants them to be held.

Whenever anyone comes down with symptoms, they should be started on HCQ+Zn immediately (for me, that was the third day when I lost smell and taste). The FRONTLINE Doctors have almost a 100% success rate when the HCQ drug cocktail is started within 5 days of first symptoms (HCQ is a cure if started early). Do NOT wait for unreliable, often incorrect test results.

Or maybe you think Senegal has better medical facilities than the US.

BIG PHARMA does NOT need to adequately test drugs and vaccines if there are no approved, effective drugs available- Therefore Fauci's position is there are no available drugs like HCQ+Zn, no matter how much evidence there is that is NOT true. .

Dr Fauci and his co-conspirators in BIG PHARMA need to be tried for crimes against humanity. Tens of thousands have died because HCQ was intentionally hidden from them.

28 posted on 08/14/2020 4:30:26 AM PDT by politicianslie (GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEMOCRATS)
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To: george76

Should be a slam dunk - if they allow protests as “freedom of speech” and “peaceful assembly”, then they have to allow religious activities with same latitude:

The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution protects the freedom of speech, religion and the press. It also protects the right to peaceful protest and to petition the government.


29 posted on 08/14/2020 4:36:22 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: mdmathis6
Overbroad and underinclusive. Related...

For Easter, a federal judge wrote a luminous decision defending religious liberty

The judge's decision is a legal tour de force to my mind. There's a link to it at the above. Well worth the read.

30 posted on 08/14/2020 4:38:47 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: mewzilla
I'll just throw this in...

Judge rejects challenge to New York quarantine order for out-of-state travelers

Locking up healthy people is constitutional in NYS.

And they wonder why residents are fleeing.

31 posted on 08/14/2020 4:46:59 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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To: george76

..God bless and protect Dr. MacArthur and the churches in CA who are standing up. We still have family and friends there. Our prayers for all...


32 posted on 08/14/2020 5:06:23 AM PDT by WalterSkinner (In Memory of My Father, WWII Vet 2007 , and Mom, the Best Mother Ever 2019)
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To: george76

California is beyond redemption.

The only solution to the Newsome problem is to leave, vacate the state. Left wing radical control can never be removed and he is using the red zones as tax sources that promote his continued power in the cities.

There is no protective law in California


33 posted on 08/14/2020 5:12:41 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: frnewsjunkie
These days the only way to stop their power grabs and absolute stupidity is sue and take their money and stop the foolishness.

This only works if you WIN the suit!

Have you ever BEEN on a jury and observed the thought processes of people up close?

34 posted on 08/14/2020 5:19:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: WalterSkinner
God bless and protect Dr. MacArthur and the churches in CA who are standing up.

Amen

35 posted on 08/14/2020 5:21:26 AM PDT by SisterK (its a spiritual war)
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To: george76

The sad part is no one can any longer count on the law being on their side...It now all depends on the political proclivities of the judge(s) assigned to their case...


36 posted on 08/14/2020 5:26:10 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Elsie

That was assuming a win.. now days it’s hard to get a judge to be fair if you are in God’s corner.

No have not been on a jury.. my brother told of one he was on...a girl had been killed in a car accident, driven by someone else and the goal was to hold the driver responsible. my brother was the one who said the girl had some responsiblity .. she got in the car knowing who was driving...

my brother and I were held responsibile for our actions..
today it’s anyone else but ‘thee’ who is blamed.

not sure how the trial came out on the driver... but my brother held his own and more finally joined him..


37 posted on 08/14/2020 5:30:29 AM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: NTHockey

“Meanwhile, the Catholic Churches and leadership are silent.”

That is the hardest part for me. Our Bishop and pastor are so worried about someone catching the virus in church. They have to worry - Jesus said DO NOT WORRY! Where is their faith? Where are the Knights of Columbus too?

I believe that God has chosen my time LONG AGO and there is nothing anyone can do to change it. I want to live life!


38 posted on 08/14/2020 5:44:08 AM PDT by RebelTXRose (Our Lady of Fatima, Pray for us! PRAY THE ROSARY!)
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To: OrangeHoof

Onward Christian Soldiers would blow their minds!.
“Onward Christian soldiers marching as to war,
With the cross of Jesus going on before...”

It would scatter the demons. Let’s do it! Because we are in a war.


39 posted on 08/14/2020 6:03:33 AM PDT by DeplorableGirl
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To: metmom

The ‘distancing’ thang may have been easy to get Muslims to observe ... they don’t have to do their prayer rug bowing at the rear end of the Muslim right in front of them.


40 posted on 08/14/2020 8:05:03 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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