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Protester claims lighting Molotov cocktail protected by First Amendment
The Washington Times ^ | 8:10 p.m. on Thursday, July 16, 2020 | The Washington Times

Posted on 07/16/2020 5:34:41 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

The federal government says it was arson. The protester charged with igniting a Molotov cocktail outside the District of Columbia police station during the recent race riots says it is protected First Amendment speech.

Jarrett Jeremy Pace, on the night he set the fire, had said on Facebook he wanted to “burn a 12 station to the ground!” The number “12” is street slang for police.

But now, Mr. Pace argues in federal district court he was speaking metaphorically, that he actually tossed the firebomb on the street near the Fourth District police station rather than at it, and that his action was not meant to burn the station but rather to express solidarity with George Floyd and protesters in Minneapolis.

“Ranging from inappropriate to deplorable, fire has historically been used as an expression of speech,” Eugene Ohm, Mr. Pace’s lawyer at the federal public defender’s office, wrote in briefs asking for his release.

Arson cases are mounting daily as Justice Department prosecutors, under the urging of President Trump and Attorney General William P. Barr, scour the last seven weeks’ protests, looking for cases to make into federal crimes.

On Wednesday alone, prosecutors announced charges against six men in New York, all accused of igniting fires aimed at government property in Rochester and Buffalo. Prosecutors in Seattle announced arson charges against a man they say set a fire outside a city police precinct there.

Mr. Pace was initially charged in superior court in the District but had the case sent to federal district court days later.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arson; domesticterrorism; eugeneohm; jarrettjeremypace; jarrettpace
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The only way that defense would work is if the cocktail was filled with a non-flammable liquid.


21 posted on 07/16/2020 6:12:44 PM PDT by Ronin (White privilege is not having to fake your own hate crimes. (HT: CrappieLuck))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Shooting a man with a fire bomb in his hand is protected by the 2nd Amendment. :)


22 posted on 07/16/2020 6:15:19 PM PDT by TigersEye (Covid is over. We have been conditioned by it. The Cultural Revolution has begun.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Pace's attorney Eugene Jeen-Young Kim Ohm previously represented Bryan Moles, a man who showed up at the DC Trump International Hotel armed with a rifle and pistol and making threats: Man arrested at Trump hotel with military-style rifle ordered to undergo mental evaluation Among other cases, he also worked to get the accused killer of Chandra Levy released.
23 posted on 07/16/2020 6:16:08 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Where does Jarrett Jeremy Pace live? Asking for several friends.


24 posted on 07/16/2020 6:17:54 PM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

This guy is not an outlier. This thought process is solid Del.


25 posted on 07/16/2020 6:18:20 PM PDT by Fido969 (In!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It must be in there right next to the right to privacy.


26 posted on 07/16/2020 6:20:21 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (I trust President Trump.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

How appropriate for a member of the resistance to have a lawyer named Ohm.


27 posted on 07/16/2020 6:21:42 PM PDT by damper99
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To: damper99

“How appropriate for a member of the resistance to have a lawyer named Ohm.”

I saw what you did there! ;-)


28 posted on 07/16/2020 6:28:34 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise
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To: TigersEye

Shoot the bottle with a .22 while he’s still holding it.


29 posted on 07/16/2020 6:32:14 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

:)

I shot the bottle
but I did not shoot the pro-test-er!


30 posted on 07/16/2020 6:35:54 PM PDT by TigersEye (Covid is over. We have been conditioned by it. The Cultural Revolution has begun.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Some Lawyer is getting paid well to represent this scumbag. His name should be out there for the deserved ridicule. Public Defender, so be it. Private Soros Lawyer HAVE AT HIM!


31 posted on 07/16/2020 6:38:43 PM PDT by DAC21
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

12gauge, bird shot, Molotov in a cocked hand, do the math.


32 posted on 07/16/2020 6:44:18 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Oh well, if he wins his case, I guess we are all cleared hot to start throwing them too. The Lord giveth, the Lord taketh away.


33 posted on 07/16/2020 6:52:45 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

And shooting an active arsonist in the commission of a forceable felony is protected by the second amendment.

The punk loses, DRT


34 posted on 07/16/2020 6:52:54 PM PDT by SheepWhisperer (My enemy saw me on my knees, head bowed and thought they had won until I rose up and said Amen!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Probably at least three or four SC justices would agree with him.


35 posted on 07/16/2020 7:03:11 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"Historically" anytime someone has a lit molotov in their hand, the orders were shoot to kill. Now that's a fact. Democrat leaders used to be reasonably sane, at least in matters of keeping people and property reasonably safe. Sure, you got your "free speech". Now enjoy the reply, coming right at you around 2900 feet per second, dickweed.
36 posted on 07/16/2020 7:37:38 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Well Scalia set the stage for that argument when he said burning our flag was speech. Don’t know if burning a gay flag is protected or not, but it probably will be determined a hate crime.


37 posted on 07/16/2020 8:19:50 PM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: M1903A1
Question for the panel...if you light a Molotov, but don’t throw it, what will happen? Will it just burn like a lamp, or explode, or...?

It'll burn for a while, then the glass'll probably shatter after it's gotten too hot.

They really don't explode, gasoline is only explosive in a very small range of the fuel vapor to air ratio. The way they work is they hit something and shatter, splashing gas over the target, which then ignites and burns. You don't really get much, if any, of an explosion. Oh, and if you're using diesel, it's not very flammable but does have a wider explosive range than gasoline.
38 posted on 07/16/2020 8:41:09 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: metmom
"Only if he doesn’t throw it. ....."

......... Hey ...... Don't forget about being in possession of a deadly weapon .... It is an actual “incendiary device” meant to do harm ...... and as such it would indeed be illegal under federal law to manufacture or possess one.

39 posted on 07/16/2020 9:46:30 PM PDT by R_Kangel ("A nation of sheep will beget a nation ruled by wolves")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If that is true, then my shooting them in the face is ALSO protected. By both the 1st and 2nd Amendments.

Past due time to stop playing nice with these a-holes.


40 posted on 07/16/2020 9:48:53 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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